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August 1, 2010 (KHARTOUM) — Sudan’s 2nd Vice President Ali Osman Taha warned today that the possible independence of the South will create havoc and chaos that was witnessed in countries with similar experiences.

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Sudan’s 2nd Vice President Ali Osman Taha (Reuters)

"All the experiences of secession in the African continent was doomed to fail; in Ethiopia, Eritrea and the Congo" Taha told a youth gathering for the ruling National Congress Party (NCP) in the Sudanese capital.

"All the countries in the continent except two support North-South unity even the major powers hostile to Sudan" he added. "This means that there is no one is working for separation" Taha said describing pro-secession forces as "losers".

"Even if the South separates it is threatened with further split if it witnesses differences" the Sudanese VP added.
Sudan’s referendum, a key provision of the 2005 peace deal which ended a devastating 22-year civil war between the north and south, is due next January, allowing southerners to choose independence or remain with a united Sudan.

Taha called for a national dialogue to focus on things that promote unity rather than encourage secession.

"The components of the unit are many, but were not sufficiently highlighted...the ethnic and racial diversity should not scare us because it represents one of the requirements for Sudan to remain one and united" he said.

"Separation means regression for each party to take a piece of land and leave the rest. Separation is a closed way of thinking that does not believe in regressive diversity and this is the first defeat for the separatist ideology" Taha said.

In the same meeting, the Sudanese industry minister and NCP figure said that North-South separation "cannot be allowed under any circumstances.

"The peace agreement gave the South 50% of the oil revenue for development, salaries and progress and what the government of national unity (GoNU) done in the South in development in areas of roads, bridges, dams, electricity to help Southerners in development to support the attractive unity" Awad Al-Jaz said.

The NCP is leading a campaign to encourage Southerners to vote for unity and observers say that the ruling party does not want to go down in history as the party which allowed the country to split.

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  • 2 August 2010 07:10, by Gatwech

    Mr. Vice President (Central government),

    Don’t waste your time on what to do about the future of South Sudan.

    Don’t you read the public opinion in the South already? We have already decided to vote for independence.

    What you can focus on is to build good relations with the future independent South. Period!

    That is a good advice, Mr. Vice President.

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    • 2 August 2010 07:17, by Gatwech

      The main problem with northern politicians is that they think "irrationally."

      When did you make unity attractive in the last five years so that Southerners can trust you and accept unity?

      You just woke up yesterday five months to the referendum and expect us to trust your latest move of cheating. People think rational!

      The South is seceding whether you like it or not. If you are for war, then you will regret it. Don’t forget that any new war will not be confined to the South alone.

      A return to North-South war also means renewal of Darfur assaults on Khartoum. The Beja in the east will also take the chance to settel scores. Internal political rivalries of Sadiq al-mahdi and Turabi will want to overthrow you in Khartoum and take over palace. Nuba mountains and Blue Nile will demand more than just popular consultations if war is reignited.

      Unless you are looking for a Somalia-like government in Khartoum, Mr. Vice President Taha, don’t temper with the South Sudanese peaceful match to independence. You will regret it, and I can guarantee you that!

      Oh, I can even predict the future more than blind politicians somewhere.

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      • 2 August 2010 09:25, by Moses Kur Akech

        Secession remains as the last resort not only for Southerners I think but Darfurians will follow the same foot-path after over five decades of political unrest across Sudan. I see Taha’s remarks more nothing rational than just mere hysteria because all the past and the current northern regimes have failed dramatically to find a peaceful solutions to country’s chronic differences since the inception of the virtual independence from Britons over half a century ago.

        This is no time for fool play but to face the consequences of your ill-deeds. There is no doubt that Darfur will follow South if the Khartoum doesn’t swiftly switch to true better strategy to find long lasting peace in the region.

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        • 3 August 2010 03:03, by John M. Atem

          The comment made by vp Taha that South Sudan independence will cause " conflicts, and disintegration". Folks, This comment is very insulting and Taha should personally apologies to the people of Southern Sudan. Folks, this comment is nothing more than a propagandistic lies designed to scare living crap out of people of Southern Sudan. in the other words, this is to indirect tell the people of world that we are not capable of governing ourselves,

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      • 2 August 2010 14:16, by Agutran

        The issue is not how disintegration is on the way, but the question is, who are the culprit of degeneration?

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        • 2 August 2010 17:09, by Ahmed Chol

          To Taha,

          UNITY will cause conflict not separation. With unity, you will witness another rebellion. Sudan is not going to get out of the list of failed states.

          Ahmed Chol, the future commander of Anya-nya III

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    • 2 August 2010 07:25, by Apalangorok

      Taha and Jaz for the seperation south, Darfur, East, South Blue Nile and Nuba are going. Fuke you AL Jaz will remain in your dusty Khartoum to beg Arab countries to help your econemy, or remain starve.

      Agutayook.

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    • 2 August 2010 07:40, by Apalangorok

      Taha and Jaz forget the seperation south think about what will happen after south go, Darfur, East, South Blue Nile and Nuba are going. Fuke you AL Jaz will remain in your dusty Khartoum to beg Arab countries to help your econemy, or remain starve.

      Agutayook.

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      • 2 August 2010 09:49, by Makol Dhal

        Mr. Taha you better focus on future relationship between two states than wasting time on intimation for no good reasons,it will never work.

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        • 2 August 2010 13:57, by Hillary B.M.L,M

          Yesterday, NCP with out any notice rounded all Southerners Secondaries Students in Khartoum as whole for brainwash rally in Late Jubir Mohamed Salih Hall. One of my brother was among the Brainwash Victims, if you don’t believe me, call if you have brothers\brother\Sister\Sisters in Secondary level in Khartoum and find out what exactly happened Yesterday.

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    • 2 August 2010 07:46, by Deng Yak L

      I doubt whether there will be free and fair referendum. I Quote Ustaz. Ali Taha saying that, " there will be conflict and chaos if South Sudan is longing for separation". so this mean Taha is preparing for the War but not for the peace , free and fair referendum.

      Nevertheless, I also quoted Awah Ajah ( Minister), saying that, " under any circumstance South Sudan will not be allowed to Separate".

      So dear writers and all news readers , be aware that Arab are going to play hot game with us , they are not comfortable with our independent but they are for the unity, which mean there will be hot game between Separatists and Unionists. there will be terrible fighting if International community is not serious observing this process of N.C.P. planing for referendum rigging.

      By Bonaparte.

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    • 2 August 2010 07:47, by Deng Yak L

      I doubt whether there will be free and fair referendum. I Quote Ustaz. Ali Taha saying that, " there will be conflict and chaos if South Sudan is longing for separation". so this mean Taha is preparing for the War but not for the peace , free and fair referendum.

      Nevertheless, I also quoted Awah Ajah ( Minister), saying that, " under any circumstance South Sudan will not be allowed to Separate".

      So dear writers and all news readers , be aware that Arab are going to play hot game with us , they are not comfortable with our independent but they are for the unity, which mean there will be hot game between Separatists and Unionists. there will be terrible fighting if International community is not serious observing this process of N.C.P. planing for referendum rigging.

      By Bonaparte.

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    • 2 August 2010 08:00, by thieleling

      VP Taha, there can be no real solution until south sudan becomes Independence. Every sudanese knows Political-Islam becomes the way of life and even is reflected in political and economic systems of Sudan. You simply reach a new low with your cynical argument that separatists are the losers on their views.

      Please, Justice or moral is in the interests of the individuals. It is unjust, unwise to try to force unity on south sudanese. You need to take a realistic account or rational assessment of the controversial issue of independence or unity. You seems to only see it from your Islamic worldview and probably forget or simply ignore to see it from intellectual or your essential leadership position minus your personal bias.

      South sudanese would rather see your cynical argument against their political objective(independence) as an expression of your personal bias based on your religious traditions or Islamic Ideology. That means you are only justifying your way of life here. But what about the way of life of others who do not share your ideology?

      Your insights are not visions of essential truths for all sudanese. Therefore, endorsing unity option is NOT the best buy for all. Please, leave south sudanese alone to make up their own minds on the Referendum.

      They alone are responsible for their own destiny, even if perhaps open to theoretical difficulties of their own(governance). They will easily forget their own differences and would quickly begin to build their own social policy based on their own chioces, free of old Sudan’s tyrannical character and political bias you just shown with your bizarre argument here

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    • 2 August 2010 15:03, by Paul Ongee

      Taha has really lost his mind but clearly read the public opinion in the South Sudan. He knows pretty well that Southerners would vote for separation through ballot boxes or bullets. So the "Bribery Unity Projects" have certainly failed in the last hour of the interim period. Unity campaigners are losers that’s why he utters those long-time hidden feelings. Taha, be ready to harvest what you sowed. OK? Don’t waste your time preaching outdated unity. Prepare to live as a good neighbor. Period.

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    • 2 August 2010 15:24, by Paul Ongee

      Taha has really lost his mind but clearly read the public opinion in the South Sudan. He knows pretty well that Southerners would vote for separation through ballot boxes or bullets. So the "Bribery Unity Projects" have certainly failed in the last hour of the interim period. Unity campaigners are losers that’s why he utters those long-time hidden feelings. Taha, be ready to harvest what you sowed. OK? Don’t waste your time preaching outdated unity. Prepare to live as a good neighbor.

      Sudan is already widely known as a conflict-ridden and politically disintegrated country. The issues are essentially deepening because intransigence of Khartoum to implement CPA, EPA, DPA in good faith. South Sudan independence is not the cause of any conflict or disintegration. Religious and political marginalization are the cause of all the woes facing Sudan today since 1956.

      Capitalization on proxy war, tribal conflicts that were there before Independence, insecurity, LRA, failure to demarcate N-S borders, inciting tensions between Dinka Ngok and Messiriya will never help NCP out of this mess. IF AL is sleeping, regional and international community are closely watching Khartoum political activities. How can you impose unity if even voluntary unity is not existent in the political arena?

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    • 3 August 2010 02:38, by John M. Atem

      Folks,
      The scum of humanity Arabs in the North are now gearing up for the war. And we have to be fully prepared for any eventuality. Taha and many of his thugs in Khartoum need to think twice this time. The war is not going to be fought in the South this time like the way it uses to be. The South Army is fully capable of defending the South and its people. And it is fully capable of taking the fight to the enemy.
      Folks, we have tried Jallaba-Arabs way for so long and it never works. In fact, this is the time the people of Southern Sudan need to put their political houses in order.

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  • 2 August 2010 07:18, by Dinka Boy

    To NCP,

    Sudan get its independent in 1956,then what have you done to the people of South and the marginalized people in Sudan? This unity with North is another problem like the one of Addis Ababa,and many dishonored accords.

    We South Sudanese are ready for those who seems obstacle for seperation. You have to know that we fought the war. You witness have many prisoners of war we gave back to you. This time,will be different because this war will mean hatred.period!

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  • 2 August 2010 07:21, by murlescrewed

    This is following a very predictable pattern. The choice of separation is one of the choices available to Southerners alone to decide. It is not for Taha or any other individual to decide. While I think the confederation arrangement with mechanisms for South to secede is a far better outcome, I think we have to accept the idea of South becoming a separate country.

    The only wise thing to do is to let South separate in a peaceful and successful ways so that there is no antagonism between the two brotherly countries. If North force South into the corner, a devastating war will ensue and no one will know how to stop it. South will have a rallying point to wage a more protracted war. Unless North is ready to be ruined, it will have no choice but to accommodate the idea of an independent South.

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    • 2 August 2010 08:05, by CHOLTHEGREAT

      Mr. Taha, stop lying a round. South will never be divided, you should be worrying about your own divisions in the North. By the way the Unity you are asking for will never be something to enjoy.Forced it and you will bear the repercursions.

      You can not compare Ethiopia-Eritrea, Congo with South Sudan- neither of these Countries has an Islamist and Arabized Government, oppressive and selfish Government that works for intentional Marginalization and assimulation of others into their own faith and culture.

      You and your allies are getting it very wrong, you must know that South Sudan will be better off on its own. You are suffering from the nightmears of 19th century when you crudedly refer to the South as unable to manage its own affairs, compare the South of today and the South that was under your selfish and Islamist Government- there is a great difference. Remember this is the 21st Century, South is sharp and can cut badly- take care.
      Come out of those illusions and accept the reality.

      ’’BETTER SEPARATION THAN UNITY IN WAR’’

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    • 2 August 2010 08:08, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

      Whoever knows the history of Sudan as a nation state will not cheaply buy a cheap notion of Maulana Taha. South Sudan as a nation knows pretty well what she wants. It is not upto Taha to enunciate the what the people want and its effects on our people. Taha is an enemy. He has been so and will remain so for his entire life.

      One wonders why the leadership of South Sudan could allow him to set an office in Juba for his pseudo-unity project. Many things will happen if these people are allowed to go on coming to Juba. They are there to work for nothing other than finding ways of eliminating our brilliant leaders. They started with Garang and the list has gone on and on. Justin Yach an then minister of SPLA died in Plane that might have been sabotaged. Now Samson Kwaje is gone!! The hands of Jallaba is long and rich with our blood mone. Why should a minister of GoSS go for treatment in Nairobi where thousands of Jallaba spies are roaming and waiting to employ their money to eliminate our patriotic leaders? Wake up GoSS otherwise we will be without genuine leaders except puppets.

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    • 2 August 2010 08:14, by Aduol Liet

      Ali Taha, you must shut-up.

      The conflict between Eritrean and Ethiopian did not caused million lives and can you think how many people dies in Sudan.? Darfurian people have been murdering by your government innocently civilians is that what you guys want to fishing these natives of Sudan.? The people who counting 2.5 million was partially correct because the really numbers was 3.25 million and if you add Darfurian and 2700 who dies in Southern Sudan because of Khartoum involvement what make different if you are not stupid man, we will live with you Northern Sudan just like Israelis people and plestianit people in the Middle East and that is what Arab want and we will do for sure.

      Separation is better than staying with you guys because you all North Sudanese Arab are devil who kills innocent people and never feel sorry for the crimes you guys committed for.

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  • 2 August 2010 07:59, by thieleling

    VP Taha, there can be no real solution until south sudan becomes Independence. Every sudanese knows Political-Islam becomes the way of life and even is reflected in political and economic systems of Sudan. You simply reach a new low with your cynical argument that separatists are the losers on their views.

    Please, Justice or moral is in the interests of the individuals. It is unjust, unwise to try to force unity on south sudanese. You need to take a realistic account or rational assessment of the controversial issue of independence or unity. You seems to only see it from your Islamic worldview and probably forget or simply ignore to see it from intellectual or your essential leadership position minus your personal bias.

    South sudanese would rather see your cynical argument against their political objective(independence) as an expression of your personal bias based on your religious traditions or Islamic Ideology. That means you are only justifying your way of life here. But what about the way of life of others who do not share your ideology?

    Your insights are not visions of essential truths for all sudanese. Therefore, endorsing unity option is NOT the best buy for all. Please, leave south sudanese alone to make up their own minds on the Referendum.

    They alone are responsible for their own destiny, even if perhaps open to theoretical difficulties of their own(governance). They will easily forget their own differences and would quickly begin to build their own social policy based on their own chioces, free of old Sudan’s tyrannical character and political bias you just shown with your bizarre argument here.

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  • 2 August 2010 08:35, by Joseph Chol De Makuei

    Hi Southerners !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mr. Taha and Awad Aljaz, are emerging to public media with their bad assumption. but i am suprising for=> why Ali Osman Taha jumped onto what he did and signed by his hand, whole world knows that Ali Osman was the one who bring the CPA. togather with Dr. Garang.

    But what happen Mr. Osman ?

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    • 2 August 2010 09:08, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

      Can you know why he is still alive and our loved ones are still passing out. John Garang, Justin Yach now Kwaje is following. These are Southern Sudanese who are patriotic with high academic degrees. Our patriotic learnt people are being killed one by one by this man who says they want unity. Is that possible? It seems our brilliant politicians could not die during the way. However they are now dying during peace? It seems we are now being defeated as a result of peace.

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      • 2 August 2010 11:02, by Thonkiir

        I don’t understand a point can cause the conflict as majority of National Congress Party has been said several times that if South chooses to be independent state there will be new war in the country.

        Whilst being separated from another is nothing why people fight for.That means all Muslims from the North are really parasitic and depending on the South resources.

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        • 2 August 2010 13:16, by mack waweru

          This is declaration of war by Awad el Jazz to say South will not separate under any circumstances. Then, why CPA was signed?

          Ali Osman Taha needs first to repeal "Sharia Law" to give unity a chance. Whatever attractiveness they can make with this law in place, then I think it would be a forced unity on Southerners through war. It would remain a guessing game who will benefit at the end.

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  • 2 August 2010 14:43, by Dinka Aliap Chawul

    No doudt that such war rheotric will come from a northern politicians like Taha,so we’re not bother by that because in history no country has ever got independent without arms struggles efrica or as where else.The clue is this;

    1.There’s going to be war even before referendum but Sudan will never be one again! let get notice.

    2 Furthermore,S.Sudan will never fail though rest of succession movement had fail to shrives because the monolithic type of country w.hich U like has not gone down well with us here in the south.

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    • 2 August 2010 14:57, by Lokorai

      Ustaz Al Taha,

      This is yet your unfortunate statement to the people of Southern Sudan; its surprising to utter such reckless remarks sir!

      I couldn’t believe my eyes reading your bulshits about the unity program to the people of South Sudan. Say somethng else, not unity Ustaz

      Being a leading respected member of the Naivasha Accord, it should now be taken official that you have don’t need that document anymore.

      Therefore you have chosen an aggression path, to justify your true color that was momentarily suppressed at that time 2004.

      SPLM leader, please take note of these remarks by from Al Taha; Gat Mai are you hearing...

      Lokorai

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  • 2 August 2010 15:25, by Paul Ongee

    Taha has really lost his mind but clearly read the public opinion in the South Sudan. He knows pretty well that Southerners would vote for separation through ballot boxes or bullets. So the "Bribery Unity Projects" have certainly failed in the last hour of the interim period. Unity campaigners are losers that’s why he utters those long-time hidden feelings. Taha, be ready to harvest what you sowed. OK? Don’t waste your time preaching outdated unity. Prepare to live as a good neighbor.

    Sudan is already widely known as a conflict-ridden and politically disintegrated country. The issues are essentially deepening because intransigence of Khartoum to implement CPA, EPA, DPA in good faith. South Sudan independence is not the cause of any conflict or disintegration. Religious and political marginalization are the cause of all the woes facing Sudan today since 1956.

    Capitalization on proxy war, tribal conflicts that were there before Independence, insecurity, LRA, failure to demarcate N-S borders, inciting tensions between Dinka Ngok and Messiriya will never help NCP out of this mess. IF AL is sleeping, regional and international community are closely watching Khartoum political activities. How can you impose unity if even voluntary unity is not existent in the political arena?

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  • 2 August 2010 15:39, by Padiet Deng Alony

    Separation means regression for each party to take a piece of land and leave the rest. Separation is a closed way of thinking that does not believe in regressive diversity and this is the first defeat for the separatist ideology" Taha said.
    Stupid word above by taha, where is your open way of thinking since cpa was signed we did not see it. why the so call arab are panic when they heard Southern Sudan calling for Separation.
    Separation whether you like or not it will be and prepare your self for war.
    call your arab youth in the north to bring Southern sudan youth by force to unity if you can do it.
    it open message to you by the whole ten states of southern sudan that we are going to separate is not upto you ncp to decide to us as stipulated by cpa you signed. i know you are crying of loosing your blood stream provider and your poor brother arab in the desert north will come one day to beg us for bread to eat in the south. blame your devil deed that let you turned over the dish of honey from your mouth due to your greedy.
    you have a good say in arabic if your brother is honey do not leak it all,remain leak your asses in your dry north idiots.

    Southern Sudan People Liberation Army(SSPLA/M) is ready to defend its territory for any external dvils offend

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  • 3 August 2010 02:30, by Bol Bol

    Our people should not be duped again with these baseless propagandas. I previous commented that these hyenas of Khartoum will try ever tactics available to them to make Southerners believe there will be something wrong with an independent South Sudan. Mr. Taha keep talking about unity and the question is why would non-Muslims opt for unity when sharia is still the law of the land? South Sudan would be better off without North.

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