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January 24, 2016 (JUBA) - The Jieng Council of Elders warned that reversing President Salva Kiir’s decree, which saw South Sudan divided into 28 new states from the constitutionally recognised 10 could instigate a new war, if not contained.

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President Salva Kiir Kiir with members of the Dinka (JIENG) Council of Elders. Its chair Ambrose Riny Thiik apprears to his right (Photo: Larco Lomayat)

"The council feels it would be unwise to reverse the order and advise the two parties to place the interest of the country above personal ambitions. The interest of the people should not be subjected to negotiation. The people are now watching and waiting what the two parties will say", said General Bona Bhang Dhol.

The Dinka council of elders is not a traditional group, but a self-appointed group comprising influential Dinka politicians and relatives of president Salva Kiir who advised him on how to run the affairs of the country in the interest of ethnic Dinka.

The group held an emergency meeting on Saturday at which it resolved a reverse of the order will have dire consequences if not properly handled.

"The position of the council is clear and would like the people to know. The council supports implementation of peace agreement because it is the desire of our people and therefore calls on the two parties to proceed with the implementation. The issue of more states is the desire of the people and should therefore be applauded. We call on the parties to respect the will of the people", said Dhol.

He warned that any attempt to reverse the order was capable of creating another war.

"The council feels that reversing the order which has been welcomed by the majority our people will not be accepted and this means another war. The council does not support war and therefore calls on the parties to abide by the desire and interest of the people", Dhol told Sudan Tribune Sunday.

Dhol is the closest and longest serving political ally of president Salva Kiir. He also comes from Akon Payam in Gogrial West county, where president himself hails.

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  • 24 January 2016 23:00, by Mr Point

    Clearly there is no need for a constitution, a peace agreement, a parliament or any system of democratic government.

    The Jieng Council of Elders have decided what the people want. Even though the people were never asked.

    The Jieng Council of Elders have decided for you. Go back to work. That is all.

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    • 25 January 2016 05:59, by Mi diit

      Walai this war the Dinka intellectuals are singing will one day consume them.

      I know they haven’t yet felt it because Dr. Machar failed to fight the war in Bhar el Ghazal and instead confined it to Upper Nile where only his home villages are burned, elders, women and children, raped, killed or displaced.

      But the war is not yet over, I can see this.

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      • 25 January 2016 10:29, by Hardlinner

        mi diit even if you go on suicide mission in bahr el ghazal, you would not succeed. remember, messeriah and razigat have tried with guns on dinka malual whose main weapons were spears and shield and never succeed. so if you want die, try and you would get one. dinka should only be concern about their own states not other. the moto is want or not but reversing is impossible.

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    • 25 January 2016 06:37, by Akuma

      Everyone now will fight to depend his/her own state because it was their demand. We are ready to depend our state if President Kiir and Dissident Riek try to reverse our state back. It will be a great war. Riek must come and work inside South Sudan rather than shouting outside the country.

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  • 24 January 2016 23:02, by Force 1

    What are those who don’t like one of their 28 States going to do? Leave their own states and moved to those who like one of their 28 States! Well; those who like one of their 28 States wouldn’t deny you being just a resident in their beloved state if you are too dumb to govern yourselves in your own states.

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  • 24 January 2016 23:23, by Khent

    These senile idiots have got it backwards... the creation of the 28 States will actually create unnecessary tensions and spark destructive war (s) all over the country. The illegal decree needs to be reversed, immediately. And just in case somebody wants to get cute by laughably calling me a foreigner in light of my interactions with Darkangel, just know that I was toying with a very sick puppy..

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    • 24 January 2016 23:31, by Khent

      ..A twisted and terribly paranoid little man. I played on his prejudices, fears and all too evident paranoia, and so I said I was a Jew in order to get him to unravel with the kind of obscenely laughable paranoia that Arabs routinely display in relation to anything Jewish. LOL!

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      • 24 January 2016 23:47, by Khent

        Were you not entertained? Did you not find his paranoid ideations, preposterous religious beliefs, glaring double-standards and outlandish predictions just a little amusing? I certainly did. Arabs see Jews behind every rock and every calamity; they never take responsibility for their State of affairs and seem wholly incapable of committing themselves to moments of self-reflection...

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        • 25 January 2016 00:03, by Khent

          ..I simply could not resist bringing that reality to the surface. I gave the poor little sap the impression that he was so perceptive and so intelligent — which is why he was able to so brilliantly discover and expose a ’Jew infiltrator’. LOL! The only thing that was true in my little game, was that I did read the books of the authors I mentioned. I’ve lived in the West since I was 8...

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          • 25 January 2016 00:21, by Khent

            ..How else was I supposed to know what truly transpired in South Sudan, in detail? People like Darkangel so desperately want to believe that no Southerner could possibly think the way I do, when there are quite a few just like me; I will eventually arrive on the political scene, and when I do, the occupation of Southern territory will come to an end. I swear it!

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            • 25 January 2016 00:38, by Khent

              Would a Zionist Jew censure a synchronistic-’Christian’ for claiming that the Jews were ’promised’ other people’s lands by ’God’? Would a Zionist Jew admit that his people invented a deity, that oh so conveniently sanctioned the land-theft they committed when they took Jericho and other lands from the Canaanites? Would a Zionist Jew tag this as morally indefensible?

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              • 25 January 2016 00:50, by Khent

                Here are the sources:

                http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article53122

                http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article56825

                In the second source I mentioned that I did not want our people to view the Jews as ’God’s chosen people’, and that such deference was incredibly embarrassing. Why would I say all of that if I was a Jew? I’m a proud South Sudanese, with a wicked sense of humour.

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                • 25 January 2016 06:43, by Konan

                  Kent, Rommel, Jew Boy, IDF..Whatever, Who cares!

                  By the way, how many Arabs have you killed until now? Lol.

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                  • 25 January 2016 07:50, by Mi diit

                    Khent (Rommel),

                    It is true that you are a Jew spy (foreigner) who read alot about Sudanese history and on the mission to further divide the people of South Sudan.

                    What will your Jewish state, Israel, gain from destroying South Sudanese.

                    Oh, I forgot that you are arming Salva Kiir to kill Nuer people.

                    Do you know that Nuer are closer to Jewish in culture?

                    The exposure makes you desperate!!!

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                    • 25 January 2016 11:22, by Khent

                      Mi Diit

                      A ’Jew spy? What kind of intelligence do you think I could possibly gather from this cesspool of single-digit retards? With the exception of maybe just two, the vast majority of the posters here are idiots. You’re being paranoid, even for you. You’re not ’closer’ to Jewish culture. You are very far removed from anything Jewish.

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                  • 25 January 2016 11:09, by Khent

                    Konan

                    LOL! You’re being crass. Tell you what, reveal to me how many Southerners you’ve killed, and I’ll reveal to you how many Arabs I’ve killed. Deal? You people killed far more Southerners than the Israelis have killed Palestinians. The Israelis would have to continue on their current trajectory for a couple of centuries to catch up with your figures.

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                    • 25 January 2016 12:40, by Konan

                      Khent, Rommel, Jew Boy,

                      We are black but not stupid. There is nothing bad with being a Jew Boy. Don’t hide in shame, we know who you are, a child killer, butcher and evil by default. You are true, Nuer aren’t like you cuz they are fighting for their dignity not stealing other people land. Go back to your Russia and leave the Palestinians alone. Thanks God I didn’t kill anyone in my life. Lol.

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                      • 25 January 2016 12:58, by Khent

                        Konan

                        No, actually you are stupid - in addition to being a hypocrite. I’m a proud Dinka; you want to believe that I’m a Jew, because the existence of Southerners like me, scares you. It means that your occupation of South Sudanese land has an expiration date. Kafia Kingi -and others- belong to South Sudan and yet you occupy it — making your spiels against land-theft embarrassingly redundant.

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                        • 25 January 2016 13:08, by Khent

                          ..You occupy far more Southern land than the Israelis occupy Palestinian land. The Nuer actually do steal land from other tribes; they steal land from the Anyuak, Burun and even the Shilluk, so spare me your ignorant nonsense. You can only assume the moral high-ground once you return Kafia Kingi and allow the people of Abyei to exercise their right to self-determination. Until then...

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                        • 25 January 2016 13:17, by Konan

                          Kent, Rommel, Jew Boy,

                          No, actually u r a Jew Boy. In addition a professional liar, foreigner and spy. So please stop pretending that u r a Dinka. I may not like the Dinka, but I respect them. Don’t bark like a mad dog it is not healthy. There is nothing like telling the truth about yourself, a Jew Boy. Lol

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                          • 25 January 2016 13:31, by Khent

                            Konan

                            You don’t like the Dinka because we stood up to you instead of kneeling at your feet. Karl Von Clausewitz was right when he said that ’The conqueror is always a lover of peace; he would prefer to take over our country unopposed.’

                            Return Kafia Kingi and demonstrate your ’respect’ for Southerners. Do you deny that you’re an occupier? Tell the truth about yourself. LOL!

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      • 25 January 2016 10:09, by Shadrack Nuer Machut

        Khent & ur Likes,
        Do u believe that, what ur 2013 rebellion caused was constructive & life saving? You just make a U-turn to implement the agreement without preconditions or remain rebels as known of u. There is nothing new of ur warsome threats. You killed, looted, burnt houses, destroyed banks, carried out rapes and beheaded innocent people in Malakal, Bentiu, Akobo & Bor etc.

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  • 25 January 2016 01:52, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

    The war they are calling for must be taken to them in Turalei, Thiet, Awiel, Malual Kon, Tonj, Akon so that they and their relatives know how to live a war situation. These are nut who do not care about the lives of South Sudan citizens. What a group of baboons called members of JCE!

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    • 25 January 2016 02:51, by Developer

      These So called Jieng council of elders only from Dinka tribe are very arrogant, idiots and inexperienced leaders making noises like piglets. Wrong is not right yet your are forcing it by anger. Now you are killing equatoria for no reasons but still you will not complete all of our.This time, the ware your are declaring now coz of illegal 28S can be fought by multi ethnics group against Dinka.

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      • 25 January 2016 04:10, by Dinka-Defender-General

        Mr. Pointless, zero developer, and Machar’s internet warriors. Why do hate jieng council of elders for no reason? Why do hate your liberators and freedom fighters. Jieng council of elders are the founder fathers of our nation. They fought for you for over 21 years that led to CPA which you are enjoying today. Also nuer and the shilluk are the only tribes that don’t want 28 states.

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        • 25 January 2016 05:03, by Developer

          Brainless like cows, useless like cows dung, you look and smell as you smeared wet cow dung on you Dinka defender. Because of your brainless or luck of reasoning capacity you have caused endless war that let people are suffering and killing innocent people. You have let the young beautiful country S. Sudan became Like Somalia. Dinka never fought the war of 21yrs alone against Khortum.

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          • 25 January 2016 05:14, by Developer

            Local people can’t affort to buy food in Juba, prices of commodities are sky rocketing, civil servants are not satisfy of their salarie due to the currency devaluation. Thieves of Dinka are renting government guns to loot, and kill local people during the night. People hate each other’s on the street. No development at all yet illegal Jieng council of Dinka elders trying to make noise like piglet

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            • 25 January 2016 05:22, by Developer

              South Sudan comprised of multi ethnic groups and doesn’t belong to Dinka alone. Sham on you dinka who think that the country belonged to one tribe only. If you reason like cows, this war will never end.

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              • 25 January 2016 06:02, by Force 1

                Developer;
                If you reduce your argument to cows, cow-dung and smell; then you lost any shred of reasonable argument. On the other hand; let me take your cows, cow-dung and smell argument; if the people you describe as such beat you in the game; you would be in any position to say you’re any rational than they are because they beat in their game! >>>

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                • 25 January 2016 06:13, by Force 1

                  If the Dinka are just cow-dung smearing and smelling people as you describe them; wouldn’t you be smarter than they are and beat them at whatever they are doing? If the idiots are the ones in control of everything in the country according to you; then you wouldn’t be in a position to argue that you’re smarter than them! What could be more rational than that?

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              • 25 January 2016 06:14, by Dinka-Defender-General

                Where were you during the 21 years of war non-developer? You might have been in Khartoum helping yourself. Where were Dr. Brainless Machar and his brutal soldiers? They were in Khartoum helping Arabs and themselves. I don’t deny brave nuers who refused to join Machar like in 2013. I love nuers people, but I like when they sell south Sudan out.

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                • 25 January 2016 06:24, by Dinka-Defender-General

                  Personally, I love Nuer peoples, but I don’t like when they sell the south Sudan out to enemies such as Arabs. My bodyguards and best friends are nuer guys. I also know that many tribes in south Sudan fought alongside with Dinka. However, majorities of Nuers are being fool by Machar.

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              • 25 January 2016 06:25, by padiit gaga

                Developer

                Thank you brother. Now I will not write any things i can say because you wrote point I can say, you will be leader of this country in future. This people(Dinka)do not hear with their ears but their eyes, the next war will be worse to them the think S.Sudan is belong Dinka alone, their 28 state will be developed they will be like Bor town if you see BOR that is how 28 states will looks

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          • 25 January 2016 06:18, by Gabriel Ajak

            Mr Destruction
            maybe u were kid by then during the war of 21yrs was fought by Dinka alone (Nuer and Nyamnyam) were all Arab militias or nyigateen they recently become South Sudanese to eat because they don’t know how to cook but they know how to eat and they don’t eat when it is hate but have an apatite to eat when it is cool sorry for that weak spirit.

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    • 25 January 2016 10:45, by Hardlinner

      jikany, before you launch your suicide war, first ask missiriah to give you hint on what would a wait you in your mentioned places.

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  • 25 January 2016 06:35, by Eastern

    Bona Bhang Dhol would be held liable for any further conflicts in South Sudan. JCE has no business in the affairs of the government; he can advise his community on issues such as cattle raiding, etc.

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  • 25 January 2016 07:46, by Angelo Achuil

    I think if these elders have interest in deciding policies for this country, they need to be accountable to the public. They should ask to be elected & registered like any other bodies - You can’t co-govern and want to remain unaccountable.

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  • 25 January 2016 12:30, by siddaw

    I have never supported the JCE’s Ideas but with this; i’m fully supporting them.

    The JCE have always been instigating nothing but an immense problems to the RSS but here. I fully support them & can not be reversed.
    Otherwise, It’ll be a fresh commencement of another WAR to our nation.

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    • 25 January 2016 15:19, by Developer

      South Sudan government was mislead by JCEs Dinka because they are brainless, have mind sets of village chief and unfit to run national government. Sham on uneducated Kiir with his supporters. This country cannot progress interm of development.

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      • 25 January 2016 17:58, by Force 1

        Developer;

        You’re just not smart enough to understand anything; if the brainless are the winners in the game and you’re not; then how would they be the brainless?
        This is like saying; your classmates scored an "A" therefore he is brainless; well; would you be the one with the brain if you scored an "F" compared to them?
        Developer; who is now utterly brainless?

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        • 25 January 2016 22:43, by Developer

          Force

          What kind of a winner and scored an A in the class are your barking about. Your president Kiir with JCEs dinka have failed the country completely due to lack of vision. Economic sector is total dead base on mass corruption and currency devaluation. Food price is sky rocketing now. Killing and looting civilli people during the night bu members Of Dinka

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