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S. Sudan dialogue committee team in South Africa for retreat

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South Africa's Vice President Cyril Ramaphosa receives members of South Sudan's national dialogue committee in South Africa, July 2, 2017 (ST photo)

October 10, 2017 (JUBA) – Members of South Sudan’s national dialogue steering committee are currently in South Africa for a three-day retreat.

The over 20-member team is led by the committee’s co-chair, Angelo Beda.

The spokesperson for the delegation to South Africa said the team seeks learns from experiences of South African on how they managed their processes and differences, which saw an end to apartheid system in the country mainly dominated by the blacks.

“We will be meeting with the South Africans and a few other international personalities to discuss the national dialogue process and how it’s going and to try to learn from the experience of others and in the sense to sharpen the strategy of the national dialogue,” he said.

Several regional and international experts are expected at the retreat.

Deng, a former diplomat, did not, however, say whether the team will seek an audience with the rebel leader Riek Machar while in South Africa where he has been under house arrest since last year.

Meanwhile, other sources, as well as the delegation members, told Sudan Tribune on Tuesday that the team will ask the South African deputy president to arrange if they could talk to the rebel leader.

“We will not give up because there is nothing personal. Our interest in this process is to end the war and ensure there is peace so that people in the displaced camps and those who have fled the country returns to their homes so that they can resume their normal life and stability returns,” Deng told reporters in the capital, Juba.

He added, “So we will not stop, even if we did not succeed in the first trip. We will again try this time through the South Africa’s Deputy President, Cyril Ramaphosa, who promised us last time [that] he [will] continues to encourage Riek Machar to participate in the national dialogue”.

Officially launched in May, the national dialogue is both a forum and process through which the people South Sudan shall gather to redefine the basis of their unity as it relates to nationhood, redefine citizenship and belonging, as well as restructure the state for national inclusion.

Since December 2013, tens of thousands of people have been killed and over two million displaced in South Sudan’s worst ever violence since its cessation from Sudan in July 2011.

(ST)

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  • 11 October 05:45, by Newsudan

    Free Riek from SA detention and bring him straight to Juba,how is that difficult, then organized general election 2018, his supporters will eventually silent guns, why keeping country hostage for one man fullstop.

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    • 11 October 06:25, by padiit gaga

      Why disturbing with your shit dialogue he will not accept that only peace revitalization will work,do not wast your time just wait Oct 13 Riek is smart man will not listening to your lie period.

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    • 11 October 06:27, by jubaone

      Newsudan,
      The Kiirminal is sending his jienge hirelings to SA for this bogus national jienge thrash. It’s timing is not accidental, it’s supposed to coincide with the revitalization talks in AA. It’s clear, the Kiirminal wants to fully replace ARCISS with this Jienge thrash. Riak should just not see them. Who knows, they could want to harm or kill Riak, like Alshabab terrorists.

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      • 11 October 06:54, by Newsudan

        Jubaone
        ya militia, Riek will be brought to Juba soon, then whom are you going to continues barking for on this site.Jiengephorbia will take you nowhere

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        • 11 October 07:03, by jubaone

          Newsudan,
          Ya MTN, that is fine with me. You kidnapped his spokesman to Juba, you parked him in SA, you used Taban all to weaken Riak and his IO all didn’t work. You can kidnap to Juba, it will now make the dance 💃 more interesting. The war MUST continue and this will encourage the opposition to do or die 💀 approach. So ya jienge choose what you want.

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          • 11 October 08:59, by South South

            jubaone,

            "he war MUST continue and this will encourage the opposition to do or die"

            Riek is parked in South Africa. Lam Akol ran to Khartoum. Peter Gatdet ran to Khartoum. jubaone ran to USA. Eastern ran to USA. Who will fight for you? Maybe rats and monkeys.We are in this to win, only to win, all to win, but nothing else.

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            • 11 October 10:11, by Eastern

              South South,

              If we are where you think we are, will Kiir be farting and looking for avenues to end the war. Why has he naively sent sent his emissaries to consult with those opposed to him? Kiir’s opponents are largely subbing these groups by agreeing with the revitalisation mechanism. By the way, the revitalisation of the ARCSS involves NEGOTIATIONS..!

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              • 11 October 10:27, by South South

                Eastern,

                You are missing the point. We all want peace. Kiir wants peace, I want peace, Eastern wants peace, jubaone wants peace, but how do we do it? Big question to answer because Eastern and jubaone want power to be handed over to them. We in South Sudan say: Anyone who wants peace must talk to us. This is reason we out our delegation to meet anyone who wants.

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                • 11 October 13:17, by jubaone

                  South South,
                  You came begging to see Riak and wants to talk to him in SA. Here you stupidly contradict yourself. Who wants to talk to whom? Jienges want to talk to the rest, but the rest dont want. Is that difficult to understand, ya aryan jienge? Sometimes I think, you sucked milk direct from the udder of the cow and now you think like a baby cow or calf. Just a dummie.

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                  • 11 October 13:26, by South South

                    jubaone,

                    We, the country of South Sudan want to talk to everyone in South Sudan to bring peace to our country. In term of war, we are winning and we kicked out rebels from every city, from every towns and from every village. We are commanding position, but we want peace. I want you to read my comment here very carefully jubaone. Everything is in our hands, but we want peace, is that so hard to yo

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            • 11 October 10:55, by jubaone

              South South,
              Oh that is jienge savages see a win 🏆 uh? Just continue with your luakthrash cos we have urgent matters to attend to; MTN hunting 👊.

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            • 11 October 12:16, by anyanya1

              @stink dog south south.
              you thing win win is an easy thing, but in order to win only you can win your dirty asses nothing else, what every body knows is that your going to loose so badly, your Dinkas insect are losers anyway ..Lol..

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              • 11 October 13:21, by South South

                anyanya1,

                Majority of tribes in South Sudan are cowards, they are born cowards, they will live cowards and I expect them to die cowards, especially those who eat rats and monkeys will never have courage to fight like human being. Anytime there is war in former Sudan, they run to Uganda, anytime there is war in Uganda they run back to South Sudan, back and forth for generations.

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        • 11 October 08:18, by Sunday Junup

          New Sudan,

          Yeah, you are trying your level best as a terorist to hire South African Deputy president to bring Dr.Riak back to Juba like James Gatdet or they Kill him for you but this won’t work since it was agreed from IGAD that he will join revitalization. Why you people don’t want to fight like a men? hiring foreigners and Terrorizing will never solves our problems.

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          • 11 October 14:28, by Tommy

            Sudan Junup,
            I think you’re out of your mind, and to be honest S Sudan problems is not because of DR Riek. The Damp regime under JCE kidnappers and cowardice attitude push us backward. Dr is out from the country for almost year and half and the system still messes up, why don’t you leave Dr alone and act like a man and transform the life of Southerners and preach nationalism

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            • 11 October 16:15, by Sunday Junup

              Tommy,
              At one way you talk sense at another aspect you tell different. No one said Dr.Riak is the only problem to SS except Juba regime that is why they terrorize every one who voice their concern. The only thing we have to acknowledge is that Dr.Riak has a mission and vision from day one that is why people return to what he said or what he proposed

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    • 11 October 07:41, by Eastern

      Newsudan,

      Bringing Dr. Machar straight to Juba and organising a general election in 2018 under the Kiir-Taban alliance will not see any South Sudanese a win; incumbency in Africa is always a win for elections. That election which Kiir and cohorts are pushing for will be rigged in their favour and that will be THE MAIN CAUSE OF THE NEXT CIVIL WAR! Watch out those pushing for elections in 2018!

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      • 11 October 10:24, by Newsudan

        Eastern
        ya militia, STD will be running mate of Kiirdit, your boss,if it true, that Dr Riek will be brought straight to Juba.Then,that will be end of Gatmachar political life.

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        • 11 October 10:35, by Eastern

          Newsudan,

          Call it militia, nyagat, rebels or whatever, the issue at hand is now beyond Kiir and Machar. Just join the revitalisation wherever you are and negotiate. Kiir and Taban tried to isolate other South Sudanese by flirting around with national dialogue and SPLM reunification but nothing is coming out of these initiatives. Watch this space dude..!

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  • 11 October 06:38, by Tilo

    What a hypocrisy, From the previous article the ND delegation is going to SA to meet Machar for inclusive ND process. Now they are going to seek experienced experts from SA on how their ND was successful. Does it mean that the current ND team are inexperience? Why should 20 p’ple seek to learn [pathetic]. The degree of stupidity in SS is so high.
    Like nobody z capable to Dialogue with Riak in GOS

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    • 11 October 06:50, by jubaone

      Tilo,
      That is jienge logic. You think straight and logically but the Jienge can’t. You will concur with me later, that the jienge thinking is so reversed and perhaps represents the missing link between humans and primates. Jienges do things impulsively and not cognitively. That is the reason most have troubles with learning. Look around among your friends at school or universities anything weird a

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      • 11 October 06:57, by jubaone

        about them? Most schools and private universities in Kenya and Uganda record serious academic deficit among our "jienges" to the extent most by fake degrees or forge them. Like the Busoga University scandal where over 70 benydits and bandits obtained degrees in a record 6 months m A BA or BSc in 6 months?

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  • 11 October 07:15, by DO IT

    This so called national dialogue initiated by President Salva Kiir is deceiving and we S. Sudanese must SAY No, NO, NO to Mr. Kiir. As many church leaders and some politicians in country were already say No, when Kiir try to deceiving them to carry-out his dialogues systems, which is cheating and criminal acts.

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  • 11 October 07:34, by David Kitara

    South Sudan Problems and solutions are written on the wall, one I think I failed to understand is how all the key players such as these team of dialogue committee keeps looking at the sky. Why don’t you first demand for the unjustified house arrest of Mr. Machar and then demand for the derailed 2015 peace deal between him and the government in Juba?

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    • 11 October 07:48, by Eastern

      You forget that the committee was formed by Kiir and report to him. They recently presented their first report to him. The committee is just claiming independence whereas not....

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      • 11 October 09:40, by Tilo

        Eastern
        We said these early ND is suppose to be an independent / neutral body report to no party and make their own decision based on the outcome of consultation from all the parties and should be inclusive but unfortunately it is the opposite in SS. No inclusivity, not transparence and not genuine, everything about ND is fake.
        WHAT A PITY!!!

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  • 11 October 08:35, by lou nuer

    Please what so call steering committee for Dinka National Dialogue don’t was resources by moving making lobbing things are out of control ND it doesn’t work at all only revitalization will work. Deng Chigaah Gatluak as you name describe you chigaah please your professional end up in useless way which will never and m¨never favor you forever. STop nonsense from FB right from today. S.Sudan to S.Afr

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  • 11 October 10:37, by Wutkhor

    Fuck all Dinka’s insects old asses idiots, any Nuer who will attempt to dialog insects Dinka’s we will slaughter him or her no need to do common thing with Dinka’s anymore since they prove their worse, they lives like wilds animals.. Only deadlocks btwn us no more game to play here..
    To those Dinka’s old asses idiots in SA RMT will never accept ur shirts.. Why dialogue while we..

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    • 11 October 10:42, by Wutkhor

      Con.. Why dialog when we went to juba last yr for sake of peace n Dinka’s were the very pples who violate the fake Igad peace so why dialog now, that is only Dinka’s animalism shirts I we were been under heavy attacks from jieng forces n their hires mercenaries since 8july in juba till we manage to save the life the very RMT whom they wanted to dialog with after persueing to kills him

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      • 11 October 10:47, by Wutkhor

        We summits ourselves for sake of peace last yr which we paid a very dearly prices including lost of very important comrades life’s, we did that for sake of peace now we survives from the jieng animalism so nobody will buy Dinka’s shirts.. We have back to business as usual in Waat n Pagak respectively, I hope RMT will reject those insects called steering committee assholdes old man.. Fuck all insec

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    • 11 October 10:48, by Newsudan

      Wutkhor
      who is this militia call Wutkhor, your English is so disgusting it is better you go back to kindergarten ( Roza).this is how Militia operates,rushing words without proper analysis,Recently in Waat 2000 militias with red ribbons on their foreheads were rush to front line without proper training, be organized.

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      • 11 October 11:09, by Wutkhor

        Newsudan
        Whom do u thing u re to correct me... Am laughing u ya insects Dinka’s baboon.. Am in Akobo from one frontier one week ago.. So don’t attempts to compare ourselves with me juba thugs n unknown gunman, I only exchange bullets with Dinka’s insects but not smile.

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  • 11 October 13:51, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

    Revitalization of ARCISS is the only credible, just avenue that peace can be achieved in South Sudan. Nothing more or less than that agreement can do South Sudanese a favour in terms of peace, justice, freedom, security and independence of the people of South Sudan. National dialogue can only be helpful after or during the implementation of this noble agreement.

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  • 11 October 18:36, by garrak1520

    There is nothing that South Sudan can learn from South Africans; it is not the same issues. South Sudan want to implement dictatorship, tribalism. The solution to the problem is to bring parties in the same room and talk sense. No need of going around the bush. If south Sudan has enough money to send people roaming the world, pay the contractors that fed SPLA.

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  • 11 October 19:53, by lino

    Ya Dr. Francis,

    I am a Dinka myself, but you guys with all experiences and education you got don’t know exactly who is the problem in the country?!
    You educated people of South Sudan and Western allies got it wrong when the problem of the whole country is blamed on 1 person Riek Machar. I don’t say Dr. Riek has not mistaken, but there are many elephants in this mess.
    We need a fox to solve issue

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