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Salva Kiir exposes his rift with Machar over South Sudan transitional constitution

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June 9, 2011 (KHARTOUM) – The President of South Sudan’s government, Salva Kiir, has for the first time exposed the ongoing rift between him and his deputy, Riek Machar, over the transitional constitutional that would govern the soon-to-be independent Republic of South Sudan for the next four years starting from July 9.


President Salva Kiir walks with Riek Machar, left, the Vice President, at the Juba International airport on Tuesday, Feb. 8, 2011 (file/AP)

South Sudan will formally become independent on July 9 following the overwhelming vote for secession from the north in a self-determination’s referendum conducted in January 2011. This came in accordance with the Comprehensive Peace Agreement (CPA) signed in 2005 and ended 21 years of civil war between the Sudan government represented by the National Congress Party (NCP) and the ex-rebels, the Sudan People’s Liberation Movement (SPLM).

The region is in the process of making a transitional constitution to be implemented from July 9, and govern the new Republic of South Sudan for the next four years.

However, opposition political parties have expressed their concerns over what they called excessive powers given to the president, including the powers to remove elected governors of the ten states and dissolve the elected parliaments and appoint new members. They also objected to the four years transitional period, preferring 18 to 24 months of its length.

Different blocs in the South Sudan’s society including ordinary citizens have expressed their respective criticism of the transitional constitution and presented their proposed amendments to the parliament.

In his speech while addressing the Sixth Speakers’ Forum on Wednesday in Juba, which gathered leadership of legislative assemblies across South Sudan’s ten states, the President of the Government of Southern Sudan Salva Kiir accused his deputy, Riek Machar, of running a parallel government within the government.

The president in particular accused his deputy of floating a document supporting amendments to the current transitional constitution.

Anonymous source present in the meeting told Sudan Tribune that the president was not happy with any proposed amendments in the parliament. The official disclosed that majority of the members of the parliament, which is over 90% SPLM, is not happy with draft document and have proposed amendments to the transitional constitution.

He said the president two weeks ago called for SPLM caucus meeting of MPs and explained to them to accept the draft document in its current form without any amendments, but mere rephrasing. “He repeated the same yesterday to the speakers of the ten states,” he said. He said “If there is any point that needs rephrasing, it should be welcomed.”

The source also confirmed that the Vice President Riek Machar has always opposed to some of the provisions in the transitional constitution. “The Vice President during the meeting of the SPLM Political Bureau on the draft document last month proposed several amendments, including removal of president’s powers to dismiss elected officials and replace them with new appointments,” he said.

“He also repeated his opposition to the provisions during the meeting of the Council of Ministers, despite the fact that both party and cabinet meetings passed the document as it came from the technical committee,” the source added.

Kiir argued that his Vice President, Machar, participated in the meetings of the party and executive and should have not come up again with a parallel document to the parliament.

“The Vice President is a member of the Executive. And he was in the SPLM Political Bureau discussion as the Vice Chairman of the SPLM, when this Constitution was passed by the Party,” he was quoted as saying.

“He was also present in the Council of Ministers, and participated in the deliberations when the ministers discussed this.”

When President Kiir received a copy of the said Vice President’s “Constitution”, he instructed his legal advisor to “go through the points raised” in the document, against what was resolved by the Council of Ministers.
Kiir said it contradicted the resolutions of the Council of Ministers.

He said the amendments proposed by the Vice President would be disregarded.

“We put it aside, that this [is] something that cannot really continue to go to the Assembly because it would derail the process of people talking about the Constitution,” adding that the document was also circulated.

“This shows that there is parallelism. You cannot identify. You cannot really say, is there one government or are there more than one governments?”

Kiir also complained against many proposed amendments to the transitional from different groups and blocks. The other floating amendments include women amended constitution, federal constitution, constitution from the Democratic Forum, Anti Corruption Commission document, Minister of Finance and Economic Planning amended document, Leader of the Opposition Constitution, 18 Political Parties Constitution and the Persons with Disabilities Constitution are the other floating documents.

"If we drive with this full speed, I believe we will not reach our destination. We will crash in the middle,” he warned.

He warned the parliament against their division over the transitional constitution. “You’re not here as tribes. You’re building a nation, and building a nation is above any tribe,” he said. “And any tribal grouping will never take us anywhere."

Mr. Kiir further said there were those who display unity and nationalism at day time, but turn into tribalists at night.

He told the speakers of the ten states, also attended by the Speaker of South Sudan parliament, James Wani Igga, that the proposed Constitution should be considered as a temporary amendment for four years and not a permanent Constitution and would therefore be amended during the four-year transitional period and passed in 2015.

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9 June 2011 10:39, by Mr. Truthteller

It is very funny and saddening at the same time that one pretends to fight a liberation war against dictatorship and ends up installing himself as another new dictator to further oppress the oppressed.

Why stab your democratic deputy at the back when he is invited here to the US for talks with the American government? Is pro-demoracy attitude a crime?
- 9 June 2011 11:07, by Martin Muong
  
  Mr Truthteller or whoever your name is, you are nothing but a scandalmonger. You named yourself a truthteller but this name is not good for you, if I were you I would name myself a rumourmonger. Please tell your uncle to stop possessing two things like hermaphrodite. Let him not be a member of SPLM and a member of opposition parties at the same time.
  - 9 June 2011 11:20, by Lamija Milaja
    
    Martin Muong,
    
    People need to be objective, what is wrong if a member of a group challenge the work of the rest of his group? It is better to oppose from within than to rebel.
    
    When will you people understand, when people rebel you say no people should effect change from within. Now when people oppose from within you say a person should choose to be either in opposition or in government.
    
    My friend it is only illiterate people that can accept documents without analysis or suggesting amendment. Kirr is the only person that can accept without analysis because he is DULL.
    - 9 June 2011 11:33, by Mr. Truthteller
      
      Lamija,
      
      Well said brother. For example when Dr. Riek Machar talked to late John Garang before 1991 to include the issue of self-determination for the people of South Sudan in the liberation struggle, John Garang refused, becuase his aim was to lead a united Sudan in Khartoum. Then when Riek rebel in order to find his own forum to champion self-determination, those of Martin Muong’s group complained that he should not have rebelled. But now they without shame embraced Riek’s self-determination.
      
      Again, now that Riek wants a solid foundation for the Republic of South Sudan to be based on a democratic transitional constitution, the likes of Martin Muong, want dictatorship to take roots and become the foundation of the new state. They also went further to accuse call for amendments from within. Are they not a confused group? I know they will one day, if they will reach it, come to their senses and accept the amendments very soon.
      
      How can you fight dictatorship only to establish another new dictatorship. It contradicts the principles of the liberation struggle that killed more than 2 million people in this land. God will rebuke them!
      - 9 June 2011 12:08, by Achiek Alier Jr
        
        Truth Teller,
        
        You must remember that CPA was negotiated and signed by John Garang and Salva Kiir not by Riek Machar and Lam Akol. Any other argument is a hoax and therefore nothing to us in the SPLM. After July we will be talking politics and we will see who is going to triumph.
        
        9 June 2011 12:51, by liberator3
        
        Achiek Alier Jr
        
        George Washington never signed the declaration of the independence in 1776. but he was the force behind the separation of the 13 original colonies from Great Britain.
        
        Washington is founding father of the United States.
        
        Signing the Document doesn’t give one a legitimacy over the other. The cause is the greater triumphant over over signed document. If we were in a United Sudan Garang would have been more than a larger figure. but we are in separate South Sudan.
        
        Even Late Colonel Gai Tut is being revered by the children born in the year 2000. why because of the Separate South Sudan. he didn’t even see his cause come to fruition.
        
        9 June 2011 13:36, by Achiek Alier Jr
        
        Liberator3,
        
        There is different between actual force and the signatories,Garang did not signed any of the protocols which made up CPA either. In the case of the US, Americans did not wage war of independent like Southern Sudanese, but President Washington was in the same camp with great fellow countrymen like Benjamin Franklin, John Adam and many more.
        
        He and his colleagues draft the declaration of independent document but it happened he did not signed it which is the same in Garang case. All the six protocols were signed by Salva Kiir, Pagan Amum, Malik Agar, Abdalaziaz Adam El Hilu, Nhial Deng Nhial, and Deng Alor.
        
        Ok according to my fellow Nuers, Riek championed the right to self determination for the people of Southern Suda, easy said than done. by signing peace in the enemy’s house in 1997?. do you know how many people die between 1991-2005?. If he is a true genuine leader, why did the people of Southern Sudan waste their time instead of joining him 14 years after he defected from SPLM/A?
        
        If he was behind the CPA, why didn’t he put his skills in the 1997 Khartoum Project Agreement? (Adwok Nyaba term). How can you protect somebody house from fire if you can’t defended your own?. Is like to say, he signed the peace in 1997, Garang did not joined. Garang signed Machakos protocol in 2002, he joined Garang and you called him the power behind the scene.
        
        Anyway, I don’t debate people under different names, I am a supporter of Kiir and late Garang and I used my real names. If you are ready to debate me in an open environment,I am happen to make it happen live in SSTV. You don’t have fear, in politics you don’t need to hide your believes.
        
        10 June 2011 09:20, by liberator3
        
        Achiek Alier Jr
        
        Well, I’m talking about the actual document the CPA.
        
        Akuot Atem, Samuel Gait Tut, Abdalla Chuol Deng, Lokurynang Lado, Clement Bure, Dr. Riek Machar, Dr. Lam Akol, Nyuon Bany & Kerubino Kuayin(supported Dr. Riek’s Self determination after 1991 splits) and those of Anya Anya II(1975-1988) were the reals heroes for war of independence( a separate South).
        
        Garang and protege’s fought for United Sudan from 1983-2002(though many high ranking war commanders were separatists, Garang never was until his death in 2005)
        
        George Washington never tolerated those who were advocating to remained as entity of a united Great Britain.
        
        please, you do not know anything about American war of independence from Great Britain. George Washington could have been killed had he forced the American colonies to remained as part of United Great Britain let alone becoming Founding father of this nation. Again there was many peace treaties signed by others like Benjamin franklin but were dishonored by the Britain. But Benjamin Franklin is one of the founding fathers of the United States.
        
        9 June 2011 13:01, by Mr. Truthteller
        
        Achiek Alier Jr,
        
        It didn’t matter if John Garang and Salva Kiir were made to sing Riek Machar’s song of self-determination and signed it in the CPA. What matters is who composed the song, and not who was involved in the singing at a later stage.
        
        And remember the Rumbek minutes of Nov. 2004, what happened between John Garang and Salva Kiir. Was it not Riek who mediated them?
        
        Are you guys for dictatorship? You will not last to enjoy it. Mark my words.
        
        9 June 2011 13:50, by Achiek Alier Jr
        
        Liberator3,
        
        And how can you composed a song if you can’t sing it? The album will sale under the person who sung it, and the Republic flag will be rise up on Garang Mausoleum in July. You understand now what I mean?. Is like, if you are a politician, and have ambition to become a president, and failed in your political career to became a president; can you call yourself a successful politician?
        
        Riek may have a vision to separate Southern Sudan from the North, does he got what it take to make his dreams happen? if yes, how did he made it happened?. By signing Khartoum Peace Agreement?.
        
        10 June 2011 09:21, by liberator3
        
        Achiek Alier Jr
        
        George Washington never signed the declaration of the independence in 1776. but he was the force behind the separation of the 13 original colonies from Great Britain.
        
        Washington is founding father of the United States.
        
        Signing the Document doesn’t give one a legitimacy over the other. The cause is the greater triumphant over over signed document. If we were in a United Sudan Garang would have been more than a larger figure. but we are in separate South Sudan.
        
        Even Late Colonel Gai Tut is being revered by the children born in the year 2000. why because of the Separate South Sudan. he didn’t even see his cause come to fruition.
        
        19 June 2011 01:44, by southerns
        
        Achiek, you are wasting your time with rebels who are used to go in and out. if I can recall when Traubi answer one of 1991 you welcome. some of the question that we dont even think of it is that why people break a out and come back to SPLM. It’s because SPLM has a foundation. 1991 folks should talk on how they are going to be forgiven by SPLM. THE 2 MILLION THAT HAVE DIED IN SOUTH, 50% OF THEM WERE KILLED BY REBELS WHO JUS LIKE TO EAT AND KILL THIER BROTHER.
        
        21 June 2011 20:38, by padiit gaga
        
        Achiek Aliar Jr
        
        If John Garang signed CPA because he forced to accept that constitutions made by Dr. Lam and Dr. Riek by U.S. his aim lead sudan in general. If he was south should not exist, but God is great he lost him in the air with his evil acts.
    - 9 June 2011 12:13, by Achiek Alier Jr
      
      Lamija,
      
      You got a point, but the paradox of Riek is; he complaint behind the close door. In politics there is say that goes; be on board or quit completely.
      
      We don’t said Riek should rebelled like Gadet or Athor, he should form a formidable opposition to challenge SPLM to the knee.
      
      Let him be a man of principles like Lam Akol, quit and form his own party.
    - 9 June 2011 12:54, by Kon Garang
      
      Constitution is the fixed foundation of democracy and once incorrectly laid whatever nice build on it will be a tragedy.
      
      let us forget what happened in the past and start building our country as south Sudanese.
      
      Good number of southern Sudanese are educated enough to read, understand, and interpret the constitution and therefore those formulating the constitution should do so with caution.
      
      Sudan today is different from Sudan yesterday.
      
      The president can never be more powerful than the elected elements of government.
      
      South Sudan is lacky because we have a lot of experiences in Africa to learn from, in fact our constitution should not be like any of the constitutions in Africa because, non of African constitutions are serving the interests of the common Africans.
      
      Southern Sudanese should vote for their own constitution,the political parties should just prepare what the have and present it to the public (not MPs) for voting, if not before 9 July, it will be immediately after the independence declaration.
    - 10 June 2011 10:34, by Chanson
      
      Lamija.I think what the leader of the South are doing is not something going smoothly with the citizen will one way or the other.But abusing/calling apresident of the country adull person is really a lack of respect toward the leaders and that is really what you Equatorian hated from Dr.James Okuk articale.When he said that Equatoria government leaders are dull.I think you reacted to the article so madly of why Okuk called the governors of the whole Equqtoria region as Dull.So please let respect our leaders no matter where they come from.Otherwise I get nothing much but please disregard your comment.
  - 9 June 2011 11:25, by Mr. Truthteller
    
    Martin Muong,
    
    What is your point? Are you supporting dictatorship with Kiir?
    
    Why conduct those expensive elections in April 2010 if those elected can simply be removed in a one good wake up morning by Salva Kiir? If that election was just for transitional period up to July 9, then all including Salva Kiir should dissolve themselves and new transitional president, governors, MPs be appointed, by a transitional council.
    
    Don’t say SPLM because many of those MPs in parliament who are oppossed to the dictatorial transitional constitution are SPLM members plus other political parties and civil society organizations. So, you and your uncle are trying to impose dictatorship on the majority.
    
    And that is a betrayal to the 2.5 million people who were led to their death in the name of fighting dictatorship and oppression in Khartoum. They are watching over you, dude!!!
    - 10 June 2011 09:35, by Martin Muong
      
      @Truthteller, I’m not backing the dictatorship, but the point is not clear. Please tell me something wrong Kiir has done so that we will not misunderstand each other.
  - 9 June 2011 11:52, by Akot Akot
    
    The Likes of Mr. Martin Muong needs to know that we rebelled because of dictatorial tribal codified constitutions which adorned presidents as empires that rules with impunity.
    
    As Dinkas, we need to know that this nation has failed secondarily because we broke jails and release suspects in prisons yet we expect others to obey laws of the land. Are we not really bully to ourselves. This constitution is bad and it does not reflect national coherence and peaceful existence because it had adorned Mr. Kiir as an empire.
    
    It has to be rejected and redone if the case can be finalized. Let us remove our tribal lenses of seeing national leaders as oppose to tribal empire after all not all Dinkas are party in this looting. There are houses that such blames be apportioned to them.
    
    Please let us wake up from blankets of mobilizing tribe mates to support in any foolish decision. This time we are different Dinka not to be mobilized selfishly. What best has Kiir done to Dinkas apart from certain class that can give him constitutional powers of such.
    
    Keep up Dr. Machar, this document is bad.
    Akot Akot Dengdit
    - 9 June 2011 13:13, by Lamija Milaja
      
      Akot Akot,
      
      That is correct, let us wake up and fight these tribal leaders. We are people of south Sudan, whoever, dares to use tribe for his personal gain must be rejected.
      
      It is clear that average south Sudanese is not comfortable with this so called transition constitution. Why then Kirr want to impose something that is not well come?
      
      For the sake of south Sudan please Kirr’s close aids wake up and tell truth, challenge whatever, is bad and we will all appreciate what is good.
      
      For me I care about somebody who rules well regardless of his origin.
    - 9 June 2011 14:02, by Wanibuluk Ciciliba
      
      A men, why do you think you should refer a National issue to Dinka alone? then your are not far from Kirr himself though you made a point. I got a motivating points noted by Kong Garang as comments but my concern here is the persistance of the President to retain the Consititution and rather be ammended after 4 years that is 2015, what burfles me up is what is wrong about ammending it at this material time than waiting for 2015?
      There was a time Dr.Lam raised complain oppossing this uniliteral consititution but because poeple were only looking at his past, criticized him more but today I’m glad to learn that even the VP Riak is partially oppsed to it and so do many commentators right here.
      As a matter of fact, any constitution that grants the President exessive powers to do any thing he want is a dangerious sign of agony during his reign so Kirr should not push traditional leaders, MP and other influential sectors in to adopting the Consititution un ammended.
    - 10 June 2011 10:56, by Maperdit
      
      Mr. Akot Akot Dengdit,you better leanrt how to understand some points in this public website before you pour out your meaningless comments. the constitution you called bad was draft by those of Riak and it was present to parliament for the finally approval.Now how can raik turn to call for amendement while he was the one chairing the committee who drafted the constitution. they make it themselves and now he is opposing his own making. Those who spent much of there life time with Arabs are full of confusion and will definately face it rought this time arround. let Riak quit with you guys and form is his own party. there no is business with in business.
  - 9 June 2011 13:04, by Abyei Soil
    
    Mr Martin Muong
    
    You’ve got a point which I should add my views you know, we South Sudanese needs better services from our politicians who are in charges of utilizing few resources we’ve in this nation. If VP Honourable Dr Riek Machar Teny thinks that he is better more than H. E. Salva Kiir Mayadit president of South Sudan then he better resign and form his own party that he think will deliver better services we’re demanding for like education, electricity supply, medical care and maternal care and child mortality and more here in South Sudan. So, I urge our Vice President Dr Riek Machar to stop abusing his position and focus on developmental issues. There is no kind of two govts in one country. These are chaos related proposals I don’t know what is behind this but at least now a days Southerners are aware of ...a mess ful stop.
    - 9 June 2011 13:16, by Mr. Truthteller
      
      Abyei Soil,
      
      May be it would be better for Salva Kiir himself to resign for his failure and lack of steering the ship well, in addition to giving Abyei to Omer al Bashir. Bashir is waiting to talk with Kiir in Khartoum about the "Abyei Soil" but Kiir is afraid to go. It was Dr. Riek Machar who recently talked to his counter-part, Ali Osman, in Khartoum, but Kiir has totally refused to go and face Bashir over Abyei and the rest.
    - 9 June 2011 13:23, by Lamija Milaja
      
      Abyei Soil and Martin Muong, both of you seem to be happy when south Sudanese are not in unity. Things must be changed from within not only by opposition.
      
      When did you people begin to recognize opposition? Challenge the content of the document not Dr. Riak as a person. Me, you, Kirr and riek non of us is an angel. So why are so against Dr Riek in everything?
      
      Can’t you distinguish between good and bad? If Dr. Riek ahs been bad for you since the creation of the earth, I am telling you today majority of south Sudanese support amendment of this constitution?
      
      What does this suggest? 1. either you are following leaders on tribal lines? 2. You analysis capacity is low. 3. You thin Riak is eying the position.
  - 10 June 2011 04:02, by maumau
    
    Guys
    
    There is nothing to argue here. Dr Riek Machar wants things to be done in a democratic way but president Kiir wants dictatorship in the government. How can the constituion give the president the right to remove and appoint and elected legislative member! This can not happen in any democratic society. Members of parliamen and Governors are eclected by the people and should be removed by the people. This constitution needs lots of amendment guys, i saw it but could not vote for it when the vote survey appeared on the internet. MAUMAU
  - 10 June 2011 05:49, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy
    
    Martin Muong
    
    Your birds of the same feather, how sad you really want to preach the death political ideology of your Salva? wake up and talk like a real Southern.
- 9 June 2011 11:57, by Sweetmouth
  
  There must be something wrong with you because of your name(Truthteller).are you really telling the truth or lies?i think you are not in the right channel check yourself and tell the truth as you say.don,t critics president kiir with nonsense one day one time you will be able to say yes to him. and after that you should be frank which side are you supporting now you are confuse.
- 9 June 2011 15:04, by monykuc, Southerner
  
  Kiir has a right to withhold any amendment that has no any benefit. There are always allege political differencies between Slava Kiir and his Vice President Riak Machar but the fact is that, whatever Riak does nobody trusted him because of his fast betrayal.
  
  His contribution are extremely reflecting the need of Southerners. Riak Machar must understand that President is given excessive powers to make sure the time for jokes and corruption has gone where people will not ran to abroad with public money, where prostitutes will not dominate the government, where betrayals and rebellion or militia will not rebel against the government, where thugs must follow one system. these are done under dictatorial government and later we will establish our Constitution of the Republic of South Sudan after the elimination of some figures which are driving us to nowhere.
- 9 June 2011 18:56, by George Bol
  
  Dear all,
  Where on Earth you contradict aggrement ammended in your present?Riek Machar work at daytime for our constitutions but at night as a tribe. Seriously,this guy is dangerious because he created some issues in the south for his self interest and like lam Akol. no difference with Lam Akol!
- 9 June 2011 19:10, by Dengcol malual
  
  readers,
  
  Who wrote the article? anything news come from the north shouldn’t be taken seriously without empirical evident. nothing in that article is true and Khartoum is looking for a way to divide the south or destabilizing the South before independent day.
  
  some of you still trust Khartoum. the name of the Journalist is not there or the name of newspaper.for those who know information security system better will know that this is a hoax and it wasn’t even written in Sudan. look at the top of the article, the time and post digits will tell you where the article came from.
- 9 June 2011 19:43, by Dengcol malual
  
  Truthteller,
  
  you want a better south Sudan, then stop believing in everything come out from Khartoum without empirical evident.
  
  this is exactly what the president said;
  He explained that the political parties were involved in the development of the transitional constitution. He pointed out that the Transitional Constitution was approved by the SPLM Political Bureau as well as GOSS Council of Ministers and presented to the SSLA. He said that political parties were involved in the process but regretted that some parties pulled out from the committee. He stressed that South Sudan constitution cannot be developed by the SPLM alone because South Sudan is for all Southerners.
  
  The President disclosed that there are ten inaccurate copies of the constitution which were circulated by wrong elements within the government. He said that the same group is working to divide the people of South Sudan on tribal lines. He called on the honourable members the SSLA to pass the constitution with amendments deemed necessary for the corporate good of the country. He stressed that the members of parliament should work in the interest of the party as well as the interest of the people who elected them to parliament, not tribal interests.
  
  He condemned the invasion of Abyei by the Sudan Armed Forces. He said the invasion was meant to provoke South Sudan into war so as to derail independence arrangements. He also condemned the order to disarm the SPLA members who are citizens of Southern Kordufan.
  
  however, we are talking about the CPA and not KPA(Khartoum Peace Agreement)and i don’t know what happened with it and why abandoned it? running around between the warring parties doesn’t make you pro-democracy. also killing civilians will never make you a pro-democracy. Dr. Riek moved from SPLA/M to SSIMA and to the National Islamic front and back to SPLA/M. i am glad he decided to come back instead but murdering innocent civilians in the name of democracy doesn’t make you a pro-democracy.
- 10 June 2011 03:10, by Chol Nyok
  
  Hi folk, do not just get into argument without making reference to the past, Machar has married another white woman!!!! Cold war is back on agenda but this time; it is not between East and West. Think critically, 1991 disaster is not far.
  
  I would suggest that SPLM should relinguish the elements of communism in their agenda in order for South Sudan to survive in this century. Otherwise; Machar is there to axe them.
- 11 June 2011 13:55, by Bungachier 50
  
  You!.. Mr. Liesteller & your Colleagues.
  
  At times you admit realities of life. You and your so called the Vice President are simply "POLITICAL PROSITUTES".
  
  Riak is one of the few Southerners who is well Educated, but because of the "CHICKEN HEART" that he is having, Southerners will never trust him with their Powers.
  
  Kiir being a good christian, he likes pointing things out. My advice to you is that, "every dog has its own day". Probably wait for that day. otherwise, SHOUT UP!!!!!...
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- 30 October 2011 19:04, by syklops1
  
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9 June 2011 10:57, by Adam

Here we go!

The transitional constitution written by Mr. President is very dangerous. Passing it through the SPLM Political Bureau and the Cabinet of Ministers is nonsense. The corrupted and ghost members of those two bodies cannot oppose the Dictatorship Document, because they are afraid to loose their positions. This proposed constitution cannot be passed because it is full of wrong and undemocratic statements. This document is going to be discussed in Washington with Machar and Lam Akol. This is also a bad sign.

Brothers! We’ve a long way to go. I hope we solve our differences in peace and respect.

Mr. President, stop playing games and let us have our state with the correct start – not with this terrible constitution of yours.

MPs, don’t pass this document. History will never forgive you.

Adam Milawaki, Nairobi
- 9 June 2011 11:44, by Kiir
  
  Dear Brothers/ sisters,
  Kiir has done his part and let’s wait for next president, maybe Kiir will be better than him/she.
  
  We are all know that constitution is very dangerous to every body including Kiir himself.
  
  Kiir
  - 9 June 2011 15:49, by Sweetmouth
    
    @Kiir.
    you are a really man!those people are loafer without doing the right thing are like a barking dog who don,t know where the owner is.the are blaming the president and if Goss allow them to bring who the want,their president will not do the same as kiir does.this constitution are there to govern those who have no ears deaf people like eating.
9 June 2011 11:01, by Lamija Milaja

Salva Kiir will soon find himself unwelcome in south Sudan if he insists to go parallel with most people of the south Sudan.

Nobody will accept Kirr’s dictatorship thinking. Where in the world president has the right to dismiss elected parliament and governors?

Kirr should not prove to the world that indeed he is illiterate and tribalistic, corrupt and dictatorship president. Kirr if you can not rule south Sudan better leave it and go to cattle camp, there are so many south Sudanese that believe in democracy and understand the language of 21st century.

That is why Obama administration invites Dr. Riek. That is the beginning of your isolation.
- 9 June 2011 11:48, by dakin
  
  Lamija,
  Truthful Teller,
  First I am glad to hear brother Truthful Teller today. He has been absent for a while and I was worried.
  This is a suicide constitution, someone strangling himself to death.
  Let him go quickly
- 9 June 2011 12:10, by Ming Dhal
  
  excuse me guys, where is the source of this document? to me i see the article was sent from Khartoum and if so you can just guest what is behind the article like some that happened before throughout six years period
  Unless you are a typical enemy of south Sudan for you to admit that what is being placed here is true
  - 9 June 2011 13:11, by Mr. Truthteller
    
    Ming Dhal,
    
    Don’t try to detract the readers from the article by making meaningless excuses about the Khartoum source. Read it also on ’newsudanvision.com’ ran by Bor journalists. It is also there, and not from Khartoum. Again, I watched from my sattelite channel here in USA some of his speech on South Sudan TV.
  - 9 June 2011 13:26, by Lamija Milaja
    
    Ming Dhal,
    
    Kirr himself talked over SSTV, unless you are far from following south Sudan affairs. Even if haven’t you read the Transitional constitution? If you have read, what is your take? if you have not read then you are on wrong debate.
- 9 June 2011 12:14, by AdierCien
  
  In The Name Of The Trinity God Amen
  
  Lamija Milaja
  
  I think you didn’t understand the article as per message contained in that article. H. E Salva Kiir Mayardit was complaining for tough pressure he experienced from his VP Dr Riek Machar who suggested the removable of elected members of parliament which is not internationally accepted not south Sudan alone. Please read again one more.
  
  The VP is not right coz power of the President must be independent from all and carry out his/her decisions without direct obstruct proposals like these Machar did. These manners are actually going to let us down. President is president in his time, I don’t know the struggles of this man presidency seat or what?
  
  Please Southerners think twice for what will bring peace and don’t forget acting like this will not accomodate new era if you’re thinking that way.
  Saying oppressing oppressed one what are talkin’ about. Before, arabs do not allow us to have a voice like what we’re here on this website. If it was Arab era there was no freedom of speech at all but today I think everyone has a say in our internal affairs.
  I know some of us don’t like the word SPLM and they are the ones working day and night to accomplish their goals but let me tell you this govt is there for development and peace, therefore, you will and shall not succeed in that manners.
  Peace Be Upon South Sudan
  - 9 June 2011 13:34, by Lamija Milaja
    
    AdierCien,
    
    Read the transitional constitution. Don’t just talk for the sake of talking. By the way why do you want compare south Sudan with arabs? It is this freedom than south Sudan start fighting since you were not yet born.
    
    Do you think south Sudanese fought Khartoum regime to give south Sudan president every power? Is south Sudan Kirr’s property to have power for sacking elected MPs, governors?
    
    People of the land, let us do something that is for the good of all. I am not against SPLM as a party but people who want to rule with dictatorship, SPLM and/or any other party member.
    - 9 June 2011 15:55, by AdierCien
      
      In The Name Of The Trinity God Amen
      
      Lamija Milaja
      
      Why don’t I compare North Sudan To South Sudan when we recently suffering from a thing that most of you (Naath) want to put us under it again. War, illiteracy, tribalism, slavery, no freedom of self expression about your feeling bad or good. Are these were not there during the united Sudan? When you’re given chances of your concerns then you begin to divert away from we were struggling till we bought it for lost of more than 2 million lives. Comments what will unite us in South Sudan but don’t try to bring your tribalistics argument here. Lamija try to change brother as I am changing now day by day. Look at my name above, it is not a Dinka name then don’t be regarding it to out of my mind I know much what I am doing.
      God Have Mercy On Us.
- 9 June 2011 12:35, by Nhomlawda
  
  President Kiir, never complain like a woman mistreated by an unforgiving husband.
  Fire him and replace him with Gen. James Hoi Mai – your loyal commander.
  Relieve him from SPLM position too.
  Do him Al Bashir – Salah Gosh style.
  This must be a lesson to those who publicly opposed you in public after agreeing with you in private on the same issue.
  - 9 June 2011 13:16, by dakin
    
    Nhomlawda,
    You have just made another mistake.
    I think that is a very good advice to Kiir.
    Yes let Kiir fire his VP, I think he have done this several times already BUT let him replace his VP with Kuol Manyang who was an outstanding advisor to our late leader.
    - 9 June 2011 23:39, by Dhalaluaak
      
      Dakin,
      Were you inside South Sudan territories during the time of our struggle?I think you wasn’t there at all or that you never know who was who and what position he/she had in the SPLA/M during the days of our struggle.You said Mr.Nomlawda is mistaken,what about you?Are you not mistaken too?Kuol Manyang never been and was not even Dr.Garang’s adviser,but he served as a high commander for our struggle starting from eastern equatoria,north c.equatoria,jonglei and south lakes.How can he become Garang’s adviser?Garang’s advisers were in the SPLA/M General headquarters not zonal headquarters where Kuol belong.I just wanted to correct this era.Thanks
      - 10 June 2011 09:32, by dakin
        
        Dhalaluaak,
        
        With all my due respect to you I was not even in a refugee camp or Nuerland,
        I was in and around Equatoria!
        What do you want to tell me about Kuol Manyang?
        He was a tribal aide of Garang,
        An opportunist who was butchering our nuer Spla combatants in Morobo, Pageri, Torit etc. etc. Or you want me to mention names
        Gier was busy commiting this brutal murder against Nuer Spla combatants in Maridi and Mundri and Bhar Gazal to Awet Akot.
        Only Hoth Mai was not affected in Western Equatoria because:
        a. His commando forces consist mainly of the Nuer and Nuba
        b. Governor of equatoria by then, Late Samuel Abu John Kabash was not in your dinka mood.
        This so called Bor massacre is not worthy its name.
        Well, this is all history to me but My question to you is this what did you people gained after all from this cowadice act?
        If someone like nhomlawda literally meaning ’our freedom,’ dinka freedom I guess needs correction,
        Can’t you forgive me for correcting him that Hoth Mai would be an uncoventional nominee on his side. Shouldn’t Gier or Nhomlawda try to make peace with George Athor instead..? of killing Nuer civilians in Pangak assuming that we may blame George directly.
        If you are satisfied you will answer and we go on
        
        10 June 2011 14:08, by dakin
        
        Hi Dhaal,
        
        CORRECTION:
        I mean if you are not satisfied with my side of the story then I welcome yours
9 June 2011 11:50, by Mr. Truthteller

Salva Kiir is a good man but not a good thinker. He has not realized up to now that there must be a group that wants to divide him and his deputy, Dr. Riek, so that they catch him (Kiir) in an isolated environment in which Riek would not come to rescue him.

His actions are playing right into the plans of that group, which will not be good for him in the near future.
- 9 June 2011 12:16, by Ming Dhal
  
  Hahaha Who is to rescue who? there is no sense for rebel to rescue any one leave Kiir yeah Mr
- 9 June 2011 12:59, by Ajiech M. Chol
  
  Truth Teller,
  
  Riak don’t deserve to be a vice president in the first place leave alone the position of presidency you’re always dreaming. Moreover, Riak could have been a great leader if he hadn’t betrayed the SPLM/A & massacred innocent civillians who have nothing to do with the way Garang runs the movement back in the day. Riak should have used other means to concur with Garang instead of rebelling, which completely set us back & benefit our enemy.
- 9 June 2011 13:01, by Dinka Dominated SPLA
  
  The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer Riek machar is in trouble his days of betrayal are over.
9 June 2011 12:13, by Chol de Kwot

Mr. President
It is your constitutional right and absolute duty to ensure that government speaks in one voice and division in the government do not reach public domain and affects ordinary citizens in term of compromised service delivery due to political wrangling in the government.
Your Excellency, it is vital for the government of the people of South Sudan to speak in one voice in order for people of South Sudan to be served well.
Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste and divided household falls. Luke 11. 17. This biblical statement is the foundation of divide and rule strategy. People of South Sudan and all organs of their government should make sure people who wish South Sudan doom do not magnify and exploit to their advantage minor political division within GOSS and SPLM again.
9 June 2011 12:37, by Nhomlawda

President Kiir, never complain like a woman mistreated by an unforgiving husband.
Fire him and replace him with Gen. James Hoi Mai – your loyal commander.
Relieve him from SPLM position too.
Do him Al Bashir – Salah Gosh style.
This must be a lesson to those who publicly opposed you in public after agreeing with you in private on the same issue.
- 9 June 2011 12:57, by liberator3
  
  Nhomlawda
  
  Yes! I dare you and your uncle to follow through on what you just said; fire him I dare you Salva Kiir. Do not wait untill July, even a week. Fire him now I dare you Mr. Cow boy hat!
  
  However, there is catch. After firing one of the visionary leader in our time, make sure you are no where to be found in Juba.
  - 9 June 2011 13:11, by Dinka Dominated SPLA
    
    Each of you, for himself, by himself and on his own Kiir responsibility, must speak, And it is a solemn and weighty responsibility, and not lightly to be flung aside at the bullying of pulpit, press, government, or the empty catchphrases of politicians. like Riek machar Each must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, and which course is patriotic and which isn’t. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your convictions is to be an unqualified and inexcusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let man label you as they may. If you alone of all the nation shall decide one way, and that way be the right way according to your convictions of the right, you have done your duty by yourself and by your country- hold up your head! You have nothing to be ashamed of Riek machar is in trouable for betraying ever years, death to raitor
- 9 June 2011 16:25, by Jada Lotole
  
  Kirr never nkew that sitting on any presidential seat is like sitting on firy coal ! never tremble mr. President ! what is making you quake is just a drop of problem from the sea of problems !
9 June 2011 12:52, by Emmanuel Ajang Solomon

Mr.President
In the Name of our Land, and the name of our Dead Heroes and hereon,our current second God in South Sudan Kiir, Kiir ,Kiir.
God is watching U and the entire nation, do not repeat that word to say we will crash,my Lord and his majesty do not say
that again God forbid please! respect the heroes/heroen.

Kiir we have done it and nobody will have right among U to say I can make this not to happen,your differences with your
vice, are since day one regarding,leadership money issue they way 2 of U are running our affairs but should not reach the level of saying we can crash, before July 9 2011or else our Bishops can be asked to pray for your crashing both before that date, if it is at all 2 of U who are better then 2.5 million lives lost during the struggle.

Kiir, and Dr. Riek there are better people who canmanage the affairs of this country then U whether in past or in future, your problems cannot be New Nation problem at all the War was started before U and can ended after U but again keep your differences out of our cause U are not the Nation or wants to say, If not me better Arabs takes it my Leaders think again U are not right from that pint.

Kiir, Dr. Riek is your vice president if he says look we are not doing well with this constitution,especially on the following areas, why are U not giving yourself time to study than to say we will crash.My dear ,pray very hard to day Neal down asked your God of that big sin otherwise U mean it. Dr. John died but we are still here, he is the first founder after Karbino Kunyin Bol leave U alone with
or simply tell him look if not I fire U and announced it the way U do degrees, but will that be a solution.

Kiir all your people are not happ with that constitution, do U think, you and John luk jok knows what are in the book or Educated then the voice telling U this, my boss take care Dr. Riek is gaining on this issue otherwise do not be deceived by us Dinkas.
Kiir we are not happy with that unless U said from today I
said no parliament or no democracy in the country please,appoint the New Military team ,declare the state of Emargency, Riek be arrested from his way back if he come to Sudan and every body who wants to tell U nonsense,please!

Kiir we are not any longer in that boat, if it is the way God wants to removed U think twice, why are U not happy with all the changes people are purposing if there was no motive behind, are U happy the way U do our things to give them to who ever sing your name like Bol Mel, Bol Bol Areec so +_Group 5 or 5 Stars we are people who where present during the struggle and see where did U bring them to mass our resources like the way they are telling U to give them powers to deal with the Ministers who are not loyal is that what U want?

Dr. Machar leave the issue of tribalism from today onward lease! you are chasing many people from your camp, not Deng deng is your man because U give him wife no,
U have people are now with U in the boat regarding this issues and most of them are Dinkas not your Nuer tribes man I always tell U this but fail to listen from ,Jane in Nairobi,she will tell U.

take great care from now .what news Paper was talking about your killing with other group I think that will be the plan,
the problem is that your Nuer tribes man are saying that Ngundeng said the flag will be raised by U,do not work with all those, try to be firm as the Nation is going to a different situation,be careful.
U can stay without coming back until the president said what he mean exactly before U will be imprison at the airport please!

Don’t ignore the that statement from the president please!
hanks/
9 June 2011 12:57, by Mapuor

At present,our leader needs powers to make sure that things are in right channel.What Kiir said is 100% correct,after 2015 we shall have a mature government that will embody all modern democratic principles.Let me make some thing clear,most of South Sudanese who were with Khartoum Government & who fought alongside the Khartoum Government are truely enemies of South Sudanese, the most prominent of whom are Dr Riek,Dr Lam,the son call Southern parties,Gadet etc.How long will you former & current collaborators of Jalaba play with our minds.When you were in Khartoum & the SPLA was in the bush, you didnt ask Jalaba to democratise Sudan instead you fought SPLA that was fighting for democracy.Our arguement is the cycle of a nascent state to democracy,four years is not a long time,in four years we shall have reached a situation were people will have right to issue a vote of no confidence to their representatives .why dont you just wait untill 2015?.Your hidden agenda is known & you very well know we never entertained nonsese.Talga be wala.
9 June 2011 13:06, by Tiger black

This accusation formulated by Lam kol Splm_Dc, alliance to Khartoum regime of Bashir. ITs pure liar published by Khartoum new paper there is no such information in the south sudan, if Kiir rule for four terms in the office than RIak also will serve as vice for the same years.SPLM _DC of lam must be abandon in the southern affair’s participation, this party is not working for the interest of junub, but simple working after Bashir interest which will not happens in southern sudan.
- 9 June 2011 13:32, by Mr. Truthteller
  
  Tiger black,
  
  Don’t hide in denials. It doesn’t help. Go and also read the article from the ’newsudanvision.com’, the website of Bor journalists. You will see that they have also published it. The writer is Mading Ngor in Juba.
9 June 2011 13:41, by Nhomlawda

Riek Machar had been a traitor both publicly and privately throughout the liberation struggle time and now in the interim period.
History will not forgive him this time around.
He will be disowned by South Sudanese as they did to Lam Akol.
- 9 June 2011 15:07, by Dinka Dominated SPLA
  
  The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer Riek machar is in trouble his days of betrayal are over.
  
  death to traitor,
  - 9 June 2011 16:08, by Sweetmouth
    
    Truth Teller.
    Thank you.
    you agree machar was a betrayal.but remember when you go with a wrong person you will be the same.his betrayal does n,t go anywhere he is the same human being.
- 9 June 2011 17:41, by Abraham Majur Lam
  
  I quite agree with you brother and let those who know the history liberation tell.
  The Bible reads say the true and it will let u free.
9 June 2011 15:53, by Mr. Truthteller

Nhomlawda and the likes,

If it were not because of Dr. Riek Machar’s nationalism and wise vision of self-determination for his people, you would still be loitering in refugee camps with your lost vision of keeping Sudan united under the Arab domination.

History books after July 9 will teach your kids about the Dr. Riek Machar being your savior and deliverer from Jellaba. He is the champion of self-determination in 1991, signed in 1997 and copied to CPA in 2005 where Garang was finally baptized in the name of self-determination.
- 10 June 2011 01:35, by Nhomlawda
  
  Mr. Truth teller
  Riek Machar is a shame in Sudan and South Sudan history books.
  His useless war against SPLA/M and Dinka civilians in favor of NIF/NCP in 1991 to 2002 was a testimony of his attempts to make South Sudanese equality, unity and development rights project failed in favor of Arabs enslaving South Sudanese.
  His defense of oil fields in favor of a brutal enemy was the second testimony of his attempt to kill South Sudan rights project.
  He is a complete shame in South Sudan and I have no idea why he does not appreciate President Kiir for appointing him the vice president of GOSS. He does not deserve that position at all.
9 June 2011 16:01, by Abikach Ayuel

Am sick and tired of ur aimless comments ! and embarassed to be part of u in Sudan ! Where do u come from dear ruthless beings ?
9 June 2011 18:25, by Lokeji

Thank you so much Dr Riek machar and the other SPLM PMs who decided to wage internal criticisms/opposition to Jok luk constitution,southern sudan modern history will never leave you out Sir.The southern masses were worried that the constitution will just go through from the parliament as it went from council of ministers, But thanks to God that you people still your consciences are still awake.
We know many things will happen to you but please keep on pushing for a democratic and civil constitution in the south sudan, they will alway opposit your suggestions but in the end of the day, you winned the game as usual.
The president was saying, people should set aside tribal agenda and work for national agenda.But is he really honest in his words? the answer is a big No, this man is one of the worse tribalist we have ever witness in souther sudan,but he comes around pretending to be the most examplary person while most of his people both in the government and military are committing cardinal crimes with impunity.
9 June 2011 19:08, by George Bol

Jallaba knows where to put baits in the South. They know who are foolish to be deceive by just simple thing. they did not forget that naath are simplly to be manipulate by bait and this is whta is going on now. We have no thing to worry about by now,we know what we always do. Thanks
9 June 2011 20:07, by WendeMajok

Intellegence vs Ignorance

Your comments are making sense today though the likes of Wise Fox still post childish comments, I agree with Achiek though few tried to oppose his diplomatic views.

You may think you are wise enough to dictate what is contained in the so called transitional constitution of South Sudan, you are talking out blue if you think what was mentioned was the only point of disagreement. Blame Journalist!!
Dr. Riek Machar Teny Dhurgon is not favoured by penalties in the constitution if you are not aware of what is contained in there. Dr. Lam Akol Ajawin was wise enough to quit and form his own party unlike Riek who has understood the objectives of the SPLM party and still wanted to be a mosquito in a tucked net. NB: Don’t mistake parties and constitutions here coz they are differrent entities.

Indeed, "Leadership consists not in degrees of technique but in traits of character; it requires moral rather than athletic or intellectual effort, and it imposes on both leader and follower alike the burdens of self-restraint." Therefore, who do you think is behind this mess? There is no way that a president can terminate the elected member by the public if the goverment is meant for the people.

For those of you who are taking refuge in different countries and you wanted to carry what you politically learnt into the system (import)without analysing the impacts on the citizens. Think twice before you betray your fellow men and potray bad image of the Country that you will one time come back to reside in......avoid internet war-of-words, come and join us in physical and realistic practice of peace and harmony within the communities of the South Sudan.

I love reading your minds here.....and proud to be a Southern Sudanese.
9 June 2011 21:14, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

Dear: people siding my not help us here.
We the truth not foolish tribal minded, we cannot be able to fight tribal war again.

When somebody opposes the Idea in the Goss does not mean creating another Government. Riek is right according to my point of view. By opposing the president shall remove elected Governor.

It is that indication of dictatorship coming. Why would the Governor by elected, if the position would abruptly be removed; with meaningless corrupted point. It happened in UpperNile when Gatluak Deng was trying to build the UpperNile State. He was removing abruptly for unknown reason; that was causing panicking in the state.

1. temperory as Wani said
2. President has no right to remove elected Governors as Riek said.
3. Constitution Law is right for rejecting too many Parties
4. Corruption should be been included in Law.
5. Disability Law should have been included as they are disabling by cause of War.
6. Parties should emerge from 2-3 in the country.
SPLM should be careful of what they are trying to implement this time other why what we have been fighting will be ruin again. We went to bush for injustice and not to do it again as Arab do to us.

Tones of Law
- 10 June 2011 00:14, by Dhalaluaak
  
  Nguetbuny de luelpiny,
  You wailed loudly with good comments today than curses you have been using some days back.Know that i gree with your comments.If we comment like that,then we could consider ourselves as intellectuals with common sense.Keep on commenting like that.
  
  Your comments today are far from proxies of tribalism.
  I hope you will digest my point into your brain as well.
  I have read too many comments without basis of any genuine criticism channeled directly to the point of an accession as the interim constitutions gave more powers to the president which could impair democracy and freedom of speech.
  
  I disagree with that amendment because it can create a clear ways to dictatorship and totalitarianism which we don’t want as a free nation who solely and dearly fought for our freedom to obtained our rights.This will or may cause us more political strives.I wish the government would have stated in the constitution that,Government is for the people and by the people.
  
  I hope everything will be settle in a very peaceful means than rebellion.
10 June 2011 00:50, by Thomas Aban

This goes to tell you that this government is for dictatorship. Mr. Silva has been in power soon after the death of late Dr. Grange. Within this time he has not accomplish much nor did he meet the basic needs of our people, his record indicate otherwise. Now he wants to stay in power for another four years instead of two, never the less he will have tremendous power given by this interim constitution to dismantle the south even more as it is.

What I want to say is this: the people of South Sudan are now expressing their concerns over the constitution and are calling to amend it. Yet Mr. President decided not to listen and ignore the people. Is this democracy? Even some of your colleagues and SPLM members are against some of the languages in this constitution, and now you refused to be challenge or listen.

People need to be objective in Oder to create change. You as a president need to be able to take criticism and listen to what the people have to say, even your party members, and other parties. Take people concerns and make a deceive decision base on what you’ve learned. You need to know that us as southern decided to vote for independent because no one wanted to be oppress by the north, but freedom for our children and ourselves.

So Mr. Kir, Please, Please listen to the People, and work tirelessly with all the parties in South Sudan to create a constitution that is fit and serve the rights of the people and our beloved South Sudan. DO NOT create a constitution that best serve one party, as it will deliver us into some serious problems.

Thomas
10 June 2011 02:15, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

The power belongs to the people and like in the referendum the people of South Sudan will have to decide what is best to them. The power should be in the hands of the public and not the few.
10 June 2011 02:27, by JAMES KUOI STEPHEN

The government that fit the post for our leadership will not allow hatred from agreedy oppressers which is(Arab.
Prosposal are so many against the Land which had earn their ripes plants.If they cunners are trying to play with Cush’s Land.SPLA should ignore their greedy desir,which was not statified for CPA resolution, then Mediators will charge them with criminal conviction against Southern Sudan.
10 June 2011 06:33, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

The right constitution for the south sudan is the one supported by the majority of the people of South Sudan and not any party. It forms the basis of the foundation of a new nation that accomodates all irrespective language, tribe, religion, sex or race. It is the only way to go forward with at this challenging time to the people of South Sudan. The debate about the constitution should not be a wedge to drive us apart. It should be a converging point of our varied views on constitutionality of our nation. Here we request that sanity should prevail otherwise the people will judge anyone who diverges from the aspiration of South Sudan. We do not need to go back and recall the word Sudan that actually practically Jallaba land in strictest sense of govership in Sudan. South Sudan should not be another name for Bari land, Nuer land or Dinka land exclusively.
10 June 2011 06:40, by Odingo

1991 is coming back again
Folks, I believe That There will be another war between Coward Dinka And Nuer Warriors Kingdom very soon, and the Dinka are not gonna like it.
Thanks
10 June 2011 09:21, by liberator3

Achiek Alier Jr

George Washington never signed the declaration of the independence in 1776. but he was the force behind the separation of the 13 original colonies from Great Britain.

Washington is founding father of the United States.

Signing the Document doesn’t give one a legitimacy over the other. The cause is the greater triumphant over over signed document. If we were in a United Sudan Garang would have been more than a larger figure. but we are in separate South Sudan.

Even Late Colonel Gai Tut is being revered by the children born in the year 2000. why because of the Separate South Sudan. he didn’t even see his cause come to fruition.
10 June 2011 12:20, by Malual Dungdit

I am with the view that even those States tha produce oil as a resource should be allocated 10% instead of 2% oil revenue when we get our independent in July 2010.

Presidnet does not deserve to remove the elected MPs and Governors in whatever situation, whether in crises on not.

President is only responsible to reomove his appointees such as his ministers and his vice, but he should not remove any how.

John Luke Jok is the most stupid person who can never do something good for the people of Southern Sudan, rather than impressing Kiir to remain in Power. Because of his stupidity John Luke lost in last year election with zero votes and that was a good lesson from Lou Nuer Community of Jonglei State.
10 June 2011 14:02, by Nhomlawda

Salva Kiir was elected by South Sudanese as their president. South Sudanese know when to take their power from Salva Kiir and give it to someone they think will perform better than Salva Kiir but not Riek Machar to determine how South Sudanese government powers are allocated and distributed. South Sudanese did not mandate Riek Machar to do anything on their behalf but Salva Kiir appointed him vice president to help him in serving people of South Sudan.
Riek Machar should not be allowed to stab his boss in the back again and repeat his 1991 rebellion against the people of South Sudan.
He should not be given any more time to plan his next moves against people of South Sudan.
People of South Sudan must take pre-emptive measures against this wicked man conspiracy. We have learned from his 1991 – 2002 actions and must not be given any more time to do his massacres again in any part of South Sudan.
As soon as he arrives in South Sudan – please put him under house arrest and arrange him in court on treason charges including owning a rebel group headed by Gatluak Gai in Unity State.
All South Sudanese are aware of this wicked man by the name of Riek Machar as an enemy agent among us.
He is an enemy of South Sudan people and must be treated likewise.
Conspiring against South Sudan people all the time is his best known duty. He poses himself as a reformed person during a day time but turns into a traitor at night.
South Sudanese must disown Riek Machar and send him loose like his mentor Lam Akol or put him in jail.
- 11 June 2011 10:13, by Honorable King
  
  Nhomlaw,
  
  You seem to be hidding from a far place. If you are a sound mind individual why contradicting your ownself? Yes Kiir was elected to office during 2010 elections. What about the Governors, Mps whom he is saying he has the power, according to Luk Jok and other group constitution, to remove them when he wants? Are they not elected the same way he was elected? Was it not because of MPs that Kiir is now the President. Don’t just be blind like him. He is already a dead mind person. He was psychologically killed by late Garang through trauma.
  Second, there is something you should have noticed if you were not blind like him. All these issues currenlty characterising SPLM leadership and GoSS as a whole are being engineered and masterminded by some other individuals and not Kiir himself. These are greedy individuals who have been looting resources through Kiir. They always blindfool him and go ahead with their night businesses while Kiir is sleeping assuming that he is working with the right people.
  Third, Dr. Riek was a runningmate to Kiir during the elections. Someone who is wise and democratic can not remove his VP who campaigned on behalf of the party and the presidential candidate as well. But because you are useless Abyei son who is hopeless, you are just speaking nonsenses. Just keep quite and think of Abyei problem. Wishing a abad thing to happen between Kiir and Riek will not benefit you in anyway.
  But your own uncle does not know that the current constitution is going to expose his own incapability to be a leader. If he is a sound mind person, why not resolve the issue with Riek without coming out publicly? Now the whole world has witnessed the inability of Kiir and the entire Dinka to lead the soon-to-be a state, South Sudan.
  You and your uncle are doing " a dying horse last kicks". You are gone already if you did not notice. Just prepare to face corruption charges that will be brought against him and his likes.
  Hon.
10 June 2011 16:56, by jur_likang_a_ likan’g

Who are Southern Sudanese? It looks as if the name is now a defition of a particular ruling tribe in that part of the country. Sense must prevail here otherwise we are heading for a dangerous destination.
10 June 2011 18:38, by Manu

Great reading from this article.
We highly respect the contributions of the current GOSS and still respect their effects in ensuring that we develop however, in an effort to have claimed a beautiful name in liberating us, they must know that it is again more than easy to loose it no matter the measures used. This already is a sign of loosing our name we are struggling to permanently stump. I don’t understand what harm it will have if it is not a plotted decision leading to wrangles to load his excellency with those powers. It is self explanatory that in the period given (4 yrs), it is more than enough for massive ill changes in our to be declared new nation.
May our loving God bless you in your plans, good or bad. We will cope up hard or easy.
10 June 2011 22:37, by Emmanuel Ajang Solomon

Sons and Daughters of the new nation.

understanding can help us alot, before responding to any.
The draft constitution,which is giving us all this talking was not done by our leaders but the committee, which was formed by the president from most of the parties and civil society organizations and groups, brought disagreement on the rules of procedure,as well as the system agreed to be observed, but where latter on argued which lead to walk out of most parties,and civil society group where represented by 2 to 3 or 1 person when they make alarm to the president.

1- the issue have nothing to do with Dinka, Nuer,or any
other tribe in South Sudan, but do have issue with all of
us on views of the Governance.
2- The simple thing for example is like, when it says,the
president,can declear war without the parliament, which
can be very dangerous, to the Nation, his children can
can go and fight in the night cluba, in one of the forei
gn countries, and beat up from there and called his dad
and said, dear father. I am almost dead in this country
because, I was attack by thieves here,which country? the
The so called Canada, or Kenya, Ugand, DR,Congo etc.
The president declear war who is to be blame? The parlia-
ment who is allowing such, constitution to be passed.

3- The council of Ministers can not be blame because all of
them must be loyal to the president otherwise, he can be
fired or even arrested, beause the president have all th-
eir records of corruption.
Political bearuea is not what we can trust, because of t-
he Election, when they said even if we give you Dogs, el-
ect them in the name of the SPLM,which have brought us t-
o this level of stagnent.

4- Mr. President, give your self time, to see the shape it
has taken,why do you want to have them at this early? we
can even have doubt on you, simply because you have symp-
athise with all looters for 6 years,what power do you wa-
nt? if can not do long time ago, before we loose our cre-
dability from the whole world like you have heard some p-
eople saying that Dinkas are with some shocking fear.

5- What will you do if, your vice president and the 90% MPs
and civil society organizations resigned?
request for more powers when and after July 9 2011 come.
6- what is pagan suffering from?Now you don’t even call
to find out about him.God forgive him to be with you.
pray that God let us reach safely to July 9/2011 Amen!

7- I would have said 15 Years without any politcal party.
No, election either, but you confuse yourself to accept
the nonsens from the why Mr. president you may even say
the local marriages should be approved by you, and all th
e chiefs in the villages be appointed by you either as is
the true translation of your constitution, give parliame-
nt its powers and the way other countries do theirs.
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