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By Ngor Arol Garang

September 5, 2009 (KHARTOUM) — The upper Nile State government today called for no military intervention saying it would extend to more killing of innocent civilians.

An armed fighter of the Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA) stands guard in 2006 in Ri-Kwamba, southern Sudan. (AFP)

A Dinka settlement in Bony-Thiang, North West of the Upper Nile capital Malakal, was attacked by armed fighters early on Friday over border issue. The assailants, who burnt down the village, killed 20 people including the paramount chief, Thon Wai, his two wives and three children. Further, they have stolen many cattle.

Speaking from Malakal by phone, Thon M. Kejok, State Minister of information and communications, said the fight, which started on Friday 4, claimed to have been initiated by elements believed to be supporter of Dr. Lam Akol, the Chairman of SPLM-DC.

As the state authorities got this information late, Dinka launched retaliatory attack killing five more people and wounding many others.

However, he confirmed that state authorities have dispatched a joint force to restore law and order in the area.

He further revealed that the dead included a baby, whose parents living in the region were caught up in the middle of a political motivated tribal conflict.

"This is again another unfortunate fight between these tribes, it is a tragedy and a fight without meaning," he stressed.

The unarmed and defenseless innocent civilians who have no way of protecting themselves from such atrocities becomes the victims of politic differences often extended to villages by enemies of peace stability in the south, the minister said adding that the brutality of this murder grabbed nationwide attention.

This is something that deserves absolute, definitive and unanimous condemnation from all the people of Upper Nile State adds the minister who sounded angered by the clash.

He went on to say we are once again feeling pain in front of the world regarding the shame felt from this progressive extermination of our indigenous populations

This killing is not an isolated case. It is a continuation of January and March clash between these tribes, said Gatkek Gathoth, a student at Upper Nile University from Nuer tribe.

I’m told that Around 100 families have fled their ancestral homelands following the murders and 300 more could follow them out of fear of further attacks, he adds.

UN officials in the semi-autonomous region say over 2,000 people have died and 250,000 been displaced in tribal fighting across southern Sudan since January. They warn that tribal violence could mar the next year general election.

Major General Kuol Diem Kuol, spokesperson of the southern Sudan army (SPLA), said the survivors of the attack said the attackers were led by an officer belonging to SPLM-DC of Dr Lam Akol.

"The wounded said the militia were led by an officer who has defected to the SPLM-DC," Kuol said. "They saw these men with their own eyes." He stressed.

However Akol dismissed today the accusation saying as registered party the SPLM-DC has no any military wing or militia adding that his party is committed to political action only.

"The purpose of these accusations is to distort the image of our party after a successful founding convention," said Akol in an interview with Al-Jazeera TV.

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  • 6 September 2009 07:42, by Dinka Boy

    Lam Akol is almost going to Die if he is starting attacking SPLA/M citizens.
    The eveident was that the wounded said that DC leaders was the lead of the Attack in the Upper Nile.
    Its is really true because the agents in that area are Lam, Ganya.
    SPLA will send troop very soon because Lam problem is not simple case in our history.

    • 6 September 2009 07:52, by Mr Famous Big_Logic_Boy

      You poor jungles get yourself a life, DC for Dinkas Change will be the only option for Southerners. You junglese where terrorising the Equaorians in EES killing the SPLA-Dc members as the same incident in WES for the NCP memeber. Who do you think you are poor and coward dinkas.

    • 8 September 2009 21:53, by Whortti Bor Manza

      You stupid fool. How many times has fighting erupted in Malakal? All over the south, there is no place spared of any fighting. Leave Lam Akol alone. I dont think Lam is also causing the fighting in Rumbek, Warrap, Jongolei and Western Equatoria. Dinkas are always fond of blaming others for their gross failure. You could be advocating the end of Salva Kiir rather than Lam. Lam will not be there just folding his hands and waiting for his death from the Dinkas henchmen.You are under estimating this man.

  • 6 September 2009 07:58, by Kim Deng

    Folks,

    When will the GoSS officials stop pointing their fingers to the wrong direction for their own mess? Civilians are killing each other across the region because the GoSS failed to disarm the civil population. Yet they blame Dr. Lam Akol who was left jobless after he was kicked out from the SPLM party.

    The GoSS has failed to bring security and stability in the region. Therefore, the only mean for any ethnic group to be secure is to use force and protect itself, otherwise it members will be slaughtered daily like goats.

    Expect more bad news within the South in coming days not weeks let alone mothns.

    • 6 September 2009 08:38, by Abuk D- Nhial

      No too much upset because" to and from’ are the prepositions of rotations. As Lam is known for his late harmful activity.

      I would be happy to hear that Lam,Oshay and Kim are indicted. Sorry to say that but for what I mean if >>>>>>.

    • 6 September 2009 15:46, by Arochthon

      This is no joke either the militia is being armed by tiegenyang, Riak Gai or Lam Akol we have no compromise with any of them they are political partys’ prostitutes. The question now is for how long are these human beings going to fight this tribal cleansing, it was Riak Machar by then they are again raising up their hands to kill innocent civilians,what is wrong with Dinka even those who don’t know anything about them, those rised by Dinka,somebody like Riak Gai, what does he know about the liberation of south Sudanese, if not because of regional balancing he is supposed to be Major by rank right now.

      For those who believe that they may be sucessful when they finished Dinka they will not just because no one among them who knows the destination of southerners. For some one like Kim Deng, he is not to be blame because those were only children that were brought up in Ethiopia by their coward fathers and now when they are here they carry two citizenships, when Ethiopia is up they are there, so they are people of no specified place and simply he is an Arabs.

      Arocthon.

    • 6 September 2009 17:55, by Ajawuk Juma

      Dear Readers,

      It is really very sad indeed to hear Southerners slaughtered themselves like animals. I am very sorry for the lives lost this times of peace!!!!! the GOSS must reviews their criminal’s code if they really have the constitutions to apprehends those thugs who killed and went without justice.

      It is very shameful for us to deceive ourselves with western terminologies as I always read alot of comments condemning other countries who predicted that Sourthern Sudan will be one of the fails state in Africa if Southerners decide to vote for separation in 2011 referedums.

      What are the signs of fail state do Southerners wants apart from these rampant killing, corruptions, tribalism and poor governing including their greedy and fake politicians who like to sneaked into power through the bloodshed without working for it?

      If this brutality doesn’t stop then the 2011 referedum will not be exerise due these violences and mistrust amongst the Southerners and this is what the NCP/NIF and its Agents wants but our poor politicians in South don’t realise that!!

      Alot of people said before that the caused of tribalism in South was because of lack of political parties what about now? how many political parties do we have now? it is because majority of Southerners are still illiterates?

      It is because many people joined politics without experiences due to poverty?

      It is because Southerners are not capable to rule themselves as other countries said example Libya leader couple of months ago,that the Southern Sudan will be ruled by western countries like America,UK, Europeans unions including Israel if Southerners vote for separation in 2011 referedums.

      There is no place or country on this planet where the killing will be honoured in any nature apart from Southern Sudan. I do say this because I see alot of happiness in some people when there is a violent amongst the civilians in hands of criminal (s).They are always honoured by educated people who are supposed to educate the people of southern Sudan how important to have a country and what the good citizen can do to his/her belove country.

      I am so worried and feel sorry about the future of this rich nation when I see some young Southerners make alot of joke with issues concerning this country yet they are the people who can change the face of this country.

      There is nothing wrong with having different tribe in the country!!!!

      • 7 September 2009 10:17, by samuel_kur@yahoo.ca

        That i was expecting Lam will do it for sure , because Lam is a very cruel person the God ever create.

  • 6 September 2009 08:24, by julius mowanga

    Africa and Africans never learnt from the near-past history of internal conflicts,as we are following the lead,as SouthernSudan People.Tribal authorities managed through the modern history of Sudan,all the inter-clan clashes and tribal conflicts,peacefully and away from the media lights.GOSS had neglected the important socio-political role that,the tribes’ chieves play .The Coucil of the South-Sudan Salatins is out of budget and has no logistical mandate to intervene in such tribal conflicts,like the resent one in UpperNile State.The civic discord has defragmented terribly due to GOSS negligence,which resulted in what we can call Tribal Political Profiling,similiar to the Yemen one then.

    SPLM/A showed its weakness and inability to protect its citizens from outlaw bandits,and from the enemy of peace,failed to disarm a certain tribes,reserving them as a backup to repress any potential opposition to SPLM authority or a revolt against its imbalanced social policies,where its political influece is copromised .Accusing SPLA/DC by SPLM,being behind this attrocities for political gain,whill not stop the barbaric behaviour by this tribes,once the marginalized tribes seeing their political-elites deprived from their rights to represent and serve them.Politically,our people are very immature to comprehend the political aspect of finger pointing in this dirty political games,that most of our SPLM cadres has adopted it as a contra-propaganda,despite their aknowledgement,that the ordinary citizens of South-Sudan are very sensetive to tribal political profilation.

    I do call upon all the tribes’ leaders and chieves to reckon to the wisdom and noble Sudanese tradition,when to deal with this kind of manipulations.

    UpperNile State authorities have to be vigilant,to restore peace and harmonic coexistence between its various tribes,and enhance the law enforcement man-power in the areas of altercations.

    Peace out

  • 6 September 2009 09:42, by Kur

    That is the face of Mr. Lam. The only intetion he has is to gain power through the back door, but I think he has come to the end of his political road.

    Kur

  • 6 September 2009 10:31, by Oduck Bol

    "This grabbed attention of nation wide and minister sound anger"
    That is good if this is the language or behaviour people want in south Sudan. When Dinka tribe attacked Shilluk tribe many time,did SPLA spokesman talk about that? Now SPLA want to intervene so that they could attack Shilluk through indirectly. If there is any intervention of SPLM in case then Shilluk have to know that Dinka armies are coming to fight them. Also do not point your finger to SPLM-DC or Dr Lam Akol.Lam dose not have any relatiship with what is going on in south. Also Did you said SPLM-DC attacked People in Anhkder, when Dinka killed civilians in Anhkder and Malakal? Please,please do not portend that you are government of all southerns in south while you are really Dinka tribal armies. Would you have talked if you have not tested bloody.

    • 6 September 2009 11:00, by longo pi

      You Lost Dinak or Dinka Boy

      Your times are numbered. SPLM Dinka Tribal party; or simply SPLM(DTP)their time is behind the door. SPLM-DC will be supported by by all Democratic western world USA, UK, EUs. So please be calm do not panic from now; just get your food and eat it before you die alive. And being buried alive in Dinka or Dinak Land. All the reports are in-hand: Dinka hegemony or tribalism is well all over known to the western world. End of CPA, End of Dinka or DINAK YA ABID.

      • 6 September 2009 12:06, by youngdinka

        longi pi. do your homework.if u got no homework
        u beter shut your mouth fools before u wil get murder. Leave Dinka Boy only .us dinka dont like traitors like Lam,Riek ,Kim ,u and many others.

        Fuck SPLM-DC.
        U servants working for arabs-Ncp and entire.

        SPLA/M oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
        Jonglei oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
        New Sudan oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

      • 6 September 2009 14:09, by Abuk D- Nhial

        Hi Longo pi, I am very young but my word is mature enough for an other century.

        Shilluk and Dinka are not different but brothers from thesame South Sudan. I am worry with single fox who train sheep to get wild at their own blood system.

        As a dinka, we never cry for the death of only 25-30 people but 50 and above.
        If we turn to revenge against any tribe,it means we may let government collapse,therefore, I urge the government not to revenge the deaths yet justice.

        I can tell the weak senseless poccupine mr.Lock out pie or Longo pi that, never use basket for keeping water but use bucket inorder to come with much water!

        To explain, BASKET===SPLM/DC,

        Bucket=== SPLM/A,

        Much water ===== MORE AUTHORITY.

        As you pretended NCP/CD to have been suported by western world,USA,UK and EU. Where do you think I am?

        "WESTERN WORLD" ? ’YES.

        Then three interrogative adjective are known by me e.g

        "What, why and when"

        Thanks.

        awuoknguan@rocketmail.com

      • 8 September 2009 06:30, by Malakal

        Holy crap!

        SPLm/DC what!

        Say it again please

    • 6 September 2009 11:10, by James

      protect youselves you Shulluk community; otherwise you will be finished by those theives and no one will say anything. no government in south sudan, only a collection of theives and looters.

      • 6 September 2009 12:42, by Ajuscommando

        It’s good for SPLA forces to protect civilians than to be kill by Lam Akol militias. Lam Akol is like dry bone and fish which is not in the water since his manners are different from others in the World. Mr. Akol act like a mad and drunken EQ. criminals since their acts is evil way.

        Ajus

        • 6 September 2009 14:42, by Abuk D- Nhial

          Hi Longo pi, I am very young but my word is mature enough for an other century.

          Shilluk and Dinka are not different but brothers from thesame South Sudan. I am worry with single fox who train sheep to get wild at their own blood system.

          As a dinka, we never cry for the death of only 25-30 people but 50 and above. If we turn to revenge against any tribe,it means we may let government collapse,therefore, I urge the government not to revenge the deaths yet justice.

          I can tell the weak senseless poccupine mr.Lock out pie or Longo pi that, never use basket for keeping water but use bucket inorder to come with much water!

          To explain, BASKET===SPLM/DC,

          Bucket=== SPLM/A,

          Much water ===== MORE AUTHORITY.

          As you pretended NCP/CD to have been suported by western world,USA,UK and EU. Where do you think I am?

          "WESTERN WORLD" ? ’YES.

          Then three interrogative adjective are known by me e.g

          "What, why and when"

          Thanks.

          awuoknguan@rocketmail.com

          • 6 September 2009 17:33, by Raan Chol

            I’m sorry for you people,cause you are been sulting dinkas for long time and dinkas didn’t give up, cause they are men of face to face with out fear,piece of mind to let you nkow that, dinkas are indefatigable not,to put this movement or to forgate the movement of SPLA/M because cause alots of their people’s live loses.

            Second; You some tribes didn’t want to shcool as dinkas did.I say cause when ever I read some article on this site written by you,you people who are complainning about dinkas lead,raletively,we dinkas don’t want to lead but we see now body who can lead as good in peace.All Southern Sudan tribes have ful of cabal and wrose politicking only dinkas in bad time!!!! You some tribes who are not in power now,you highly welcome to lead when we not with a Araba!!!! 

            To some of you,who have poss any things bad on this site on behave of tribes,by nameing tribe’s name or people in South Sudan’s paliment,polition.To be a good politiion you won’t have not to name or say any tribes or politions’s name,say what you want to say agains them and they will nkow what talk about.
            Thanks By
            Raan Chol from
            Southern Sudan!!!

            • 6 September 2009 23:02, by monyluk

              Is Dr.Lam a leader of SPLM-DC or tribal leader? why did your army force target civilians ? is he going to establish a country without citizens? go and attack SPLA

            • 9 September 2009 00:36, by Rambang Deng

              Raan Chol;

              Your article prove you right, uuh!

              Your artcle prove that you are one of the most educated Dinka ever wrote an article in this discussion board.

              During the war, the SPLA was composed of 100% (percent) Dinka.

              Riek, Lam, and others from other tribes defected, but Dinkas SPLA senior commanders such as Kerbino Kwuanyin Bol, Arok Thon Arok, Atem Gualdiit and other Dinkas did not defected. Nuer and Shilluk commanders such as Current and former chiefs of Staffs James Hoth Mai & Oyai Deng Ajak, John Kong Nyuon, Duol Paleek and many others did not remain with Garang’s faction.

              Shilluk were attacked last year by their fellow Dinka brothers, but we have to care more about last weekend’s incident, what a good leadership our Dinka brothers are providing.

              You say the Dinka don’t want the leadership of South Sudan, but they see no body from other tribes who could provide good leadership and therefore the Dinka give us their best-Kiir Mayardiit, Wooooooooooooow!!!!

              Thanks bro. and goodluck in your all wishs.

              Rambang Deng

    • 7 September 2009 04:15, by monychol makuei

      look Mr oduck or shet, this is not a joke even Shilluk were been killed last few months you the once who started first,in malakal when the celebration begun instead to respect the sudanese happiness and peace aniversary that was held on january 2009,but you mass it up, because you were been supported by the stupid (NCP)and you don’t know what’s behind this. you did steal the live of other people as shooting the once of Jieng de Ngok there, what do you think if I go and shoot down your father or mother with out any reason what will you think? why Shilluk policeman shot the civilian by the government weapon.this created the dispute inbeween the two tribes and you know that bad political will spread decease to inocent people. you do eat together with arabs in one plate as you said in your shilluk song,that shoul keke bonyo nyaam eluol akielo.this what is going on inside your tribe Shilluk and i think shilluk will never get better even if you join the (NCP)with your fucken ass lam akol i don’t think you will gain any thing or any benefit from them, it will be just the mass to your people as we all know that arab is not going to do any good to southerners.let’s know that if you are going to join the north forever,so we could started to destroy you in second.lam akol is a stupid ass that’s why he ran away from bush and left the fight to men of the land, also men without fear, but you shilluk couldn’t stand to cofront those men face by face. i know you all as you just steal the live of people without telling them to fight, this is a act of the fearness and a act of evil.lam akol created conflic,but you never stand that all of us are going to get any benefit in the south including your lam akol it is just the benefit for (NCP) that you are doing now but put it in your mind that when finished ourselves, so (NCP) will come and destroy all of us even your lam akol will never exist. let’s him know what he doing now is not our benefit. it is better to united ourselves in the south ,so we could beat the arab together as we were in the bush,but arab is seem to be your living final answer. you did remember when 5,000 other shilluks got killed by arab in 1997 in the white Nile State with out any reason.they were only cililians without any weapon or arm guns that they were holding.this must alert you that you can change your mind from that stupid political. it is just a con from the arab.thank you brothers and sisters what i’m telling you it is not,because i don;t like shilluk. it is because shilluk is going into the wrong way.SPLM DC as sudan people lebration domocratic change.how could you change domocratic in the world. is it that you change domocratic into tribalism rulling. this is what lam akol want to do? it is some thing repulsive to me,it is not accepted,because it is a stupid party.by doing this, it will be against many of southerners and no one will attended it is also will be only shilluk party.

      • 7 September 2009 09:11, by Oduck Bol

        Re Monychol Makui:

        Look mr idiot Monychol,you thought that Shilluk would have feared of Dinka leader to revenge. How many times Shilluk enquired Salva Kiir to bring attackers or Dinka who attacked Abanemo and Anhkkder to justices and have law to protect civilians? but Salva kept silent because he thought that Shilluk could have feared of his power. So Shilluk know how to deel with its enemy. To Monychol, you are Dinka Shilluuk who knows Shilluuk songs and you are Dinka Shilluk that create obstacles to Shilluk because of Dinka government . So let us tell Dinka government to start from zero or bring Dinkas who attaked Shilluk in Abanemo and Anhkder first if Dinka government want to investegat Shilluk attackers other wise let us start us from zero now. Collo knows all languages, if Dinka do not listen to peace language,then Collo knows how open your mouth by offended language as it was happended last days. Collo tribes always has its things on tabl, you are the one who will chose for yourself,if you pick the wrong one it is up to you. The optoins were left for Dinka Government and Dinka Shilluk on the table. They are the one who will take their choices now either peace or thug’s’ lves it is up to Dinka Shilluk.

        • 7 September 2009 14:23, by monychol makuei

          this is monychol oduck or oshit, i’m telling you that the dinkas,who had attack anakdiar last few months, had been brought on trail,but you shilluk failed to have real a witness,because you had lied.you see when you are the once who massed up first, you will fail,even if you brought trillion of witness. it seem in your eyes that you are lying to the court and this is what happened to your people. they failed to have the right witness,so now you are the once who will be responsible for the mistake that brought confusion to these tribes. i don’t think that you will stand and face confrontation,but only to steal the live that with no one knows about it. we men don’t fight like that. this is a fight of women or evil people by coming with the mask on your head,so no one will know you by seeing your face. is it become a terrorist fighting or what? are you become a southerners terrorist and this is what i see. by doing this to your friends or brothers and sisters, will return back to your necks.look mrs oshit i’m not playing with you if confrontation face by face i don’t you will stand,but because we dinkas,know that shilluk is nonesence to fight and this is not what we went to the bush for, your lam akol and you all came back to your husband arabs,but these people, won’t give you any benefit at all.it is just to fuck you free look if we are going to put this in our mind,we will forget what we went to bush shilluk is not going to exist in second not in one minute and also remember, the words that your fucken lam akol mention,that you all shilluk come back in and go to school,dinkas are going to fight and die all,so you the once will come rule the south.it is not going to happen.we had fought it for you women,running back to the arabs won’t help anything to us,but to stand and fight for your own freedom,that’s why you had already saw it that there is a southern sudan government and its SPLA/M,but not a SPLM dc this is a bushit party.what happened,to you got crazy,because your evil lam akol had been thrown out from his position,but he was the once who massed up his position,because this was the SPLA/M position,but he didn’t worked with the southern sudan government, he just worked with the arab,that’s why SPLA/M kicked him,because arab bought him as a trator against his own people. we southerners don’t want that to happen again.

    • 7 September 2009 10:34, by Santino Nuan

      Dear Oduck Bol

      My friend, you sound narrow-minded if you encourage tribal conflict to continue. The incident that happened to Dongjol Dinka in Bionythiang is not a minor issue the like of you can roughly play with. Those who attacked Anakdiaar village are now under arrest and they will face justice though it is Shilluk your tribe who first killed an electricity Engineer from Ngok Dinka.

      What do Dongjol did to Shilluk for them to be killed brutally like this? Did they attacked Fashoda or what is the reason? Secondly you don’t need to deny that the attackers were not from Lam Akol militia while there are wounded people who saw them with their own eyes and heard their slogan of SPLM-DC Oyee and Fashoda Oyee. My friend let me tell you that attacking Dongjol Dinka means you are like attacking bee heeb. You know very well that if it is not this Dongjol Dinka who rescued you, Mr Tanginy would have bunrt down Fashoda in 2004 when he bowed to destroy holly village of Mak. Shilluk don’t fight whehter in SPLA or in the SAF and if you don’t agree please go and try to access the statistics in any either origanized armed forces if you will find Shilluk dominating combatant soldiers. How many battlions the Shilluk had formed in the SPLA file during struggle, nothing at all. Is it only Fashoda with less than a battlion which also contributed nothing but surrending themselves to Arab when Lam Akol signed Fashoda agreement?

      There is no problem my friend if you want to resume your "Luol Akiel" (one plate with Jalaba) as it sang in your Shilluk songs, it is up to you. South Sudan is very big and we cannot betray again the cause of our freedom using tribal conflict. Let me tell you, don’t generalize Dinka even the Dinka who knew nothing about Shilluk as a warior but a betrayers. In any battle during struggle if 100 soldiers died, 75% always are to be Dinka. The Jalaba knew that if it is not because of these Dinkas, they can turn the whole South into IMedina and Makka. If it is not Dongjol Dinka my friend, Tanginy would have burnt down Fashoda in one day when advanced to capture it in 2004.

      Oduck we don’t want to be seen doing politic of tribes. There is nothing Dinka has done to you Shilluk and God can witness that. You are the one born betrayers of any noble cause of Southern Sudan. If you feel to be warior than any other tribes why don’t you organize yourself and liberate your area from the advancing Arab into your northern territories of Sholo Kingdom.

      • 7 September 2009 20:17, by Oduck Bol

        Re to Monychol and Santino:

        Let me tell both of you that you are nyagart who were looting while people were fighting war ,then now you complained that government is yours which has never happened on this world that government could be owned by individuals. First to Monychol who said that Dinkas attackers were brought to justice. How could that happened in malakal while all judges are Dinkas nyagart and reces. What kind of evidences you need if there were Dinkers who was wounded in the fght and they were brought to the government of Dinka. It is better you rely on your own power rether than nyagart. To santino who said that Shilluk was the first who killed electric engneer,that is a lay. Dinkas Donkjol dose not have mind of engneer, we know their activities,they are Muslims,business, drinking while they broking Islam law,women and looting as you see now they got march each other with those of El Barlghzal looters. So my friends let us be democratic nations so that we can make south a good place for all of us.

        • 7 September 2009 22:45, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          To Oduck Bol

          hello Oduck Bol

          I think you might have know something or you might be denying the " Fact". An Electric Energneer was Murder at the night of Jan 7th to 8/2008 by murders who don’t wanted Ajang/Jieng in Makal as worker. The man was from Ngok by the Name Kuol Thiony da Gau. And later report reach villages with wrong report that all Jieng officials have been murder in Makal.

          This was happen before the day of jan 9/2008. Then later they attack Jieng during the salvaration dance. And that lead to the response from other side who their man and people have been murder and spears in the dance field.

          thank you

          Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

          • 8 September 2009 02:43, by Oduck Bol

            Reply to mr Nyuetbuny:

            You seem telling the truth mr Nyuetbuny but Kuol thiony was murdered at night as you said. How do those guys above complain that he was killed by a Collo? And if they knew the murder,why they did not arrested him? May be he was kill by gangs or his enemy.So my friend do not take SPLM as an opportunity to liberate yourselves by attacking Collo. If you need to go El Bahar Ghazal,you are welcome but go with peace instead creating hate among Dinka and Collo. Collo knows how to respect themselves and other people. Now when the leader is Dinka (Salva Kiir), Dinka Dongjol and and Ngok start to attack Collo because they know that if Collo fight back SPLM army will protect or back them up like what we all know when SPLA spokeman talked when it was a collo who attack Dinka but he did not speak when Dinkas ramies attacked Collo in Abanimo and Anahkder. He never open his mouth for Dinka attacked on COllo tribe because it is Dinka government. Let us talk about peace and how to make our place beautiful place than talking about it was my land and not yours.

  • 7 September 2009 12:34, by Africano

    The Dinka in Malakal are behaving like Lords. They have taken SPLM/A as their private affairs. What happened in Abaniem (which Dinka took during the war and called it Biny Thaing) was a retaliation of the killing of a Shilluk notable Nyereth Akic in Pamath Village, in July. SPLM-DC is in no way involved. Thon M Kejok is the militia leader of Dinka Ngong in Malakal. He maintains militias in his house and the same time call himself an SPLM. I hope the honorable the Militia Thon Mum knows, yesterday a family of five was killed by Dinka in Bol Village. No worry let us go on to see who will surrender. The Shilluk are fighting for their land. The next target probably will be Thon Mum.

    • 7 September 2009 14:57, by Dauson Gieth

      Gentlemen,

      We have lost an elder, a leader and a family man. He goes with knowledge and ancestral informations that this generation of Padang could have benefited. May his soul rest in eternal peace!!!

      Afracano,

      You just want to divert everyone’s attention by making the whole story and a campaign against the Dinka. You are courageous enough to rename Bionythiang and threaten for more blood. Well armed I guess by your half in the North

      were those Shilluks fighting for their land? Which land? Is Bionythiang in western part of the Nile? Where have we been then?
      You just don’t know what you are talking about

      Please stop this and bring the culprits to justice. Remember the Ngok people were detained from Banglai and jailed in Malakal and are still facing trials although there has never been any substantial evidence agains them (Individuals)

      We shouldn’t have any lives lost at this moment

      • 7 September 2009 15:17, by Africano

        We are in for the mess you wanted. What history you are talking about. You will go where you came from. With Dinka, we better start from square one.

  • 8 September 2009 03:26, by Abok Kiir Dau

    My condolence to the Dongjol Dinka families who lost their love one, may God rest their soul in peace.

    Dear Oduck, Africano and Okuch.

    First to Oduck, you did deny that you are not shulluk/shilluk in your comment on 5/09/09. While you are by those name and being supporter of Lam Akol, no one will harm you if you are but telling lies isn’t good enough for educated person like you and encouraging war among civilian will not help us to be better nation in Southern Sudan. Now to both of you, you people mention about Dinka Ngok Lual Yak started the fight first, which is totally wrong, you just want to grap the puplic attention by convincing them or to let them believe you that you are telling the truth, Which is not. Dinka Ngok Lual Yak,Dinka Dongjol, Shulluk, Nuer Lou and Nuer Nasser have been good neighbours for long time but when Lam Akol step in, he came with destruction and bribery to demolish the relationship that was between this tribes.

    How can the SPLM-DC bring change while is being led by primitive professor who kill civilians while they are his backborne if he really want to create change. No way he could be, Lam is a pretender who deceive himself to be a friend of anyone but there is some things concealment about him. That is so call stupidity, a foreign misnister who have poor ability to understand or to profit from experience. On the other hand one of you did mention about shulluk land, and how it is invaded. Which land is your? Malakal is not your, your place is on the other side of the Nile, the owners are Dinka Ngok Lual Yak, but Ngok allowed everyone to be there since it’s bring Southern together.

    To assure you, Malakal name was (Mat a kael) in Dinka, meaning gerthering of all cattle (people) of Sudan together because it is the centre. But when arab came as traders the change it as Malakal as the change Panthou to heglig. Also Khartuom name in Dinka was (Kier-tuom) meaning joining of all rivers but traders change it as well, so historically all those part belong to Dinka, but since Dinkas are freedom fighters, the went to the bush to fight for the truth but coward peopl like shulluk remain in those areas to share that plate (Luol Akiel) with arabs. Addition to that, Anakdiar belong to Ngok lual yak but due to inter-marriaged between Ngok and Shulluk, Ngok lual yak offer one of their inlaw small area to stay since he was homeless and chase a way with his family by his own people within Shulluk. Look! How good Ngok Lual Yak peopl are, that’s how shulluk occupy or invaded Anakdiar but the were given small place to stay for a while, therefore Ngok didn’t chase them when many of them come and build their houses because Dinkas respect inlaws. And now shulluk claim it as their without shame.

    On top of that, Okuch you also talked about Georgi Athor on your comment on 05/09/09. Disarming shulluk, my friend not only shulluk was disarm, all Dinkas on that side of upper nile were disarm too, that led to massive killing because DC party know that civilian have no protection, his party or NCP who are betrayer, bribe weak tribe to cause trouble or insecurity

    Otherwise we are still coexisting peacefully, as of nations. I believe holly village of Mak is condemming what is happening between the two tribe, so let join our hand and aim for better future of our kids instead of supporting evil act.

    Ms Abok

    • 8 September 2009 04:47, by monychol makuei

      thank you very much abok kiir for responding to this stupid mind,trying to lie about what is going on between the two tribes. this idiot oshit is sucking arab dick in khartoum,so that’s why he is not giving up to tell the public truth.SPLM-dc no one will accept the tribal party to be register.southern sudan government will continue moving with its agendas no one will stop it.to become terrorist by covering your eyes and killed inocent civiliant won’t help to bring shilluk to gether also now shilluk had divided itself into two part and I thank those from shilluk who knows the truth. remain calm all the time and let those whose become arab traders,but not knowing the right way that could bring us together and remain one body in the land do the mass.but this will stop when arab kick their ass out with no benefit to get.

      • 8 September 2009 06:05, by Nguetbuny de Luelpiny

        To Oduck Bol

        Which Land you call it your? "Lokcollo" or "lokjang"?
        I guest you know when our granfather Arrive there. Everybody was having owner side. Remember the when they were arriving from there. They were not carrying the land we left to Arab at the North.

        The Collo police man who murder Electric Engineer was Arrested, but he was not acting a lone, it was something that been organize not to see Jieng professional in the Town due to jealousy against Ajang(Dinka). Western Bank Nile is considered as "LogCollo" and East Bank is for Ajang "LogJang".

        It might be what Collo call, "Collo kek Boonyo Maath ee luol Akiel la" also they murder the great Revolutionary leader of Anya nya 1 Wutter at Nyinthar malual war. try it, but it will satify all of as, Nuer did Organize thesame thing like what the Collo is doing now to drive Jieng out of land. But it will satisfy them deadly. And that is why it take longer for black Sudanese not to Achieve victory over our main enemy every quickly.

      • 8 September 2009 06:39, by Oduck Bol

        To Nguetbuny and Munychol:

        Please, please Munychol and Nguetbuny you are acting now like Bor Dinkas who have had acted badly when John Grang was aleader from Bor. Bor peopl whether from civilian or army,they were abusing other tribes, but see them now,do they talk crzay like befor. I want you guys to tell the truth which is the way that will get us together. Do not support your brothers,friends because they are from your tribe this is stupidity supporting from you. Why you claim for land in this time event we have not become independent state if you are not supported by Dinka leader? Where were you when the Collo took the land you complain now that it is Dinka land? Ask Collo first before jumping in wrong meanings (Looc Jaink and looc Collo)Do not be cheated by the name when they have meanings in Dinka language. Our language are almost the same.

        • 8 September 2009 09:47, by monychol makuei

          well, mr oshit now you are giving up you had liad to the public.look we are not a stupid people that will betray their own people,because of disposition or some thing else,can you see the government of southern sudan shilluk,murley,anyuak,nuer,dinka,bari,balanda and so on are in this government does it look as dinka government?you get to answer me this question please.we don’t want to urge something that is nonesence and this is what you are trying to confuse the public about this dispute. if you know that there is lok jieng and lok collo as east and west why you don’t tell the truth.listen if you don’t want to quit lies we will not give either even you write 24hrs on this site.please don’t suport the lies. if lam akol lost his fucken position as minster of foriegn affairs, will not bring confusion and urgement between the two tribes,but he had been poisoned long time ago by arab and we all know about this man very well,even his children will not look after them including his mother. Dr Garang was a man of dignity and freedom even if he did some mistake within the SPLA/M. I think no man will final do the right thing until he/she died never,never happen. please Iam telling you this,stop the fake politics that could confuse us and act as tribal people,this is not what we want to do to our own people. we want to stay together firmly and defeat this rulling in the country.we all shilluk,we all Dinkas,but if you want to segregate these two tribes,please their blood will follow you sooner and not later.arab is not going to do any thing even if you bring mother in. they are laughing to you now, because of increasing the pressure those who had lost their love ones. you don’t know about me and iam telling you the truth. if you repeated this lies,I will write more even a thousand or a trillion of bad words and also to let the public know that who is telling the truth.bor are our people including shilluk and everybody from the entire southern sudan. thank you I hope would response again to my words correctly and not badly.

          • 8 September 2009 11:39, by Oduck Bol

            To mr monychol:

            You seem understanding things by opposite man. When I said our languages are almost the same it dose not mean Iam Collo. I was mean all tribes in south they chare meaning of some names on somethings sometimes.

            To answer you bout Dinka government is that when Dinkas killed women and childern in Anahkder and Abanimo,did SPLA spokesman or minister of information said any single ward about that attacked? No body at all. What make SPLA spokesman speak now and what make minister of information angry now? If they are the government of all people of south? they would have kept silent like what they did during Dinka attack on Collo tribe. The answer is just because they are government of Dinka. They not there for all people of south.

            I may for give you but first you should start talking to your people who are crazy like you to stop complain about land and attacking Collo nation and one of them is ms Abok Kiir who was just copied her arguement from drunkers who were drinking in their/her house and imagining meaning of cities and place couple of days or months ago. All nations in south Sudan or over the world ,they respect themselves event other people do bad thing to them,they still be calm especially when the leader from them. But I was surprise the Dinkas behaviour; it is Avictor to you guys when the leader is from you. Attacking other nation,grbbing land of others, recess at job opportunities. What the act is that?
            God may bless south

            Oduck Bol

            • 8 September 2009 15:23, by monychol makuei

              oduck,you didn’t read my final opinion,so take a look and read it. this could satify you if you are not a liar person,please read it and answer me back soon.this is the history of neigbours tribes was written long time ago even your mak knows about this history and nothing had been change in both side,now rules and laws for these tribes, idiot lam akol had burst them off,will bring an agony,I won’t call him Dr lam akol,it will be ashame to me,because there is no one went to school to target civiliant as fucken ass lam akol. that Dr must be remove as soon as possible and put this name idiot lam akol.retialation is not going to be simple mr oduck,but had already started,10 from shilluk are out of service in this world now and all the shilluk that were resided in malakal are now in their main land which is west of the Nile and also it is not just even a fighting yet,look what ayoungdit children will do to kingdom of shilluk.I don’t think idiot lam will talk about malakal any more,but he is going to talk about pachoda tomorrow.

        • 8 September 2009 12:20, by monychol makuei

          Mr odaack, we were in the bush fighting for your freedom,and shilluk came back in and support the arab,so the land was annexted by arab to shilluk,because of supporting the insurgent in that time,but history was written long time ago as lok jieng and lok collo.shilluk in the west of the Nile and jieng in the east of the Nile. this is the way we had been,but never happened that no one of jieng or dinka went or settle to the west of the Nile until now,because dinkas or jieng don’t just jump into somebody’s place. as the eastside of the Nile belong to jieng and west side belong to shilluk as lok collo.Anakdiar is a name of jieng,so we did allowed Ajak goldit’s family to stayed there and we named this place because of rueth’s urgement with his brother,when his brother killed his wife long time ago,so we had accepted his brother to stay,when he ran away from his brother rueth.settlement from shilluk to this side of the Nile must not include annexting the land.Imigrate to other land is something we all know,when you want to come back to your orgin land,you will not take any thing or call it that’s your land and this is what happened to these two tribes Mr oduck. trying to know the history and then you could participate in the urgement or discussion. we had the map including names of bothside if you require them to see,I would be glade to send them to you thank you.

      • 8 September 2009 10:56, by Abok Kiir Dau

        You are welcome Monychol, it’s good to be sincere and say what will help the nation. I knew that shilluk will divided themselves into two part because they know for sure that they are being use as scape goat and they have stay with Ngok for long time without any clashes. Otherwise thanks for those who know the truth, since it will set you free.

      • 8 September 2009 10:58, by Abok Kiir Dau

        You are welcome Monychol, it’s good to be sincere and say what will help the nation. I knew that shilluk will divided themselves into two part because they know for sure that they are being use as scape goat and they have stay with Ngok for long time without any clashes. Otherwise thanks for those who know the truth, since it will set you free.

        Ms Abok

    • 8 September 2009 06:05, by Oduck Bol

      Reply to ms Abok Kiir:

      Dear ms Abok Kiir. Thank you for your opinion. I think you know me that Iam democracy supporter. It dose not matter to me who you are where are you from just if you for democratic Iam your supporter. So ms Abok Kiir, Iam not Shilluk this is truth. But do not follow idiot person that is Munychol and Dinkaboy you are better than them in opinion.

      About your argument: You are carrying drunker opinions and you may be ms drunker too because how come you just imagining by names of Cities and place and if it has march the same meaning with Dinka name,it is Dinka city or its place which it dose not make sense and may be one day you may claim that Kampala in Uganda yours too. this is crazy gusting from you ms Abook Kiir. It seem now Dinka were not for liberation of south Sudan but went bush for liberation to themselves from other tribe in south Sudan other wise they lost way. I have one question to you ms Abok. Why SPLA spokesman and minister of communication talked when it was a Collo who attacked Dinka but when the Dinkas Killed women and children in Abanimo and Anhkder they did not speak if it is not government of Dinka? Do you know now they arrested some Collo commenders in army because of that attacked but what is the relationship between civilian fight and army? If you do not know that ask about that if iam not telling you the truth.

      • 8 September 2009 10:44, by Abok Kiir Dau

        Thanks for your quick reply mr Oduck. I actually stand up for democracy, which is run smoothly by smart people but not like what you are supporting. As an intellectual person, why can you stop supporting SPLM-DC and be independent, therefore we can join hand and work for the good of our nation and correct those leader instead of following their foot step. In addition to that, you amazes me by calling me ms drunker, to assure you my dear, my opinion is fresh and fact why because I don’t drink, so mine was not imagination but true, otherwise we do have some name that are the same as people name but not places or cities unless it is Dinka origin.

        Next you claim that SPLA Spokesman and the minister of communication talked when Dinka is attack but not when Collo (Abanimo and Anhkder) attacked. As a matter of fact, Dinka know how to stay with their neighbours but others tribe don’t, so according to any law in the world, who ever attack first is guilty and that is why the intervene.

        Lastly you did ask me whether I know if they have arested some Collo commenders. The answer is no I don’t, tell me if they have and if they are rested, may be they are the suspect. Remember no smoke with out fire but lets respect our dignity, since we are the future leaders.

        • 8 September 2009 16:13, by Atungdiak

          Abok,

          Thanks for shading a tremendous light on this case. You reason better than some men here.

          Oduck,

          Yes I understand you are not a Shilluk and you are either misled or intentionally making such statements because of your hatred against the Dinka. Only if you understand that Dinkas are humans and equally have problems with the GoSS that you would be able to balance the truth
          Advice: your envy and hatred for Dinka makes you weak and little minded but I believe if you reverse that and reason like a South Sudanese, you are an asset. Just blame people individually but not as Dinkas, Chollo etc

          Remember; Nobody requested nature that he/she should be born a Madi/Zande/Nuer/Dinka etc. Only God knew that we were all equally valuable and never minded where he placed you. Simple theory

          Africano,

          You are talking about history and you have answered your self. We are talking about lok Jang ( The East bank of the Nile) Not Lok Chollo ( The West bank of the Nile). There are two Malakals. One in in the West Bank and is histircally called Malakal Shilluk. The other one in the East Bank is in Lok Jang according even to your own self. The reason of calling that Malakal Shilluk meant there was another Malakal and that does not belong to them

          Yes we all understand we all came up from the Northern part of the Country and Possibly Egypt during the migration period. Even the human civilization begun with us while in Egypt ( I mean us Southerners all)

          The Padang communities and Shilluk came and settled together along the river Nile and between rivers, swamps and Khors (Fulus and Atar). Still we had a border called the Nile with the Chollo and you all know. That is why those days, they don’t bury any one from the king’s family at the East bank calling it foreign land

          Due to good relationship and intermarriages, some Shilluks crossed and were given a piece of Land at the East bank and Anakdiar does not have a meaning in your language is a prime example. Children of the chief who gave that piece of land are still alive. Other clans of Ngok were assimilated into Shilluk community and are found in Mijok and Doleib

          Frankly speaking, these category of people do not agree with your campaign because they all know how they crossed to East Bank. Only those of you who come from far west and are greedy think so

          Today; you have admitted that our electrical engineer that was assassinated in Malakal was murdered with intent. Today you are saying our Paramount chief deserved to be slaughtered with his family and today you are threatening that you are ready for the mess

          Let me hope you can envisage the kind of animosity you have started and will leave to the challenge
          You will all cross to LOK Chollo Westbank)

          We know the colonel who organized the attack by name, the planners and others. We don’t even need a fuckin police to apprehend them. They will face the justice!!!!

          • 9 September 2009 00:13, by Oduck Bol

            To mr Atungdiak:

            What you talking about man? Your theory is not working. We are talking about fact not theory you started yesterday and you want to make it true today. Do not jump on meaning of words man Malakal Shilluk and Malakal Sok. Okay there is oboyi long jang and oboyi long collo it is Adinka villages too? Your theory and philosophy you are trying to create will not get you any where Dinka Ngok and Dinka Dongjol. That is why you Dinka Ngok and Dinkjol started "attacking Collo civilians" so that you could be helped by SPLA. Do not be like a kids Dongjol and Ngok people,when they pretend that they have power during present of their parents,but sometimes they get smash event in front of their parent. I wish I were from Collo tribe. The nations who are peaceful,give love to all nations, value every human kind and the nation that accept everybody as he or she is. Please let us give respect to collo nation.

            Oduck Bol

        • 8 September 2009 23:34, by Oduck Bol

          Back to Ms Abok Kiir:

          I appreciate your share on this hard topic,event some time you get hit with painful words by your opponents. At the end we are all friends and one nation.

          To come to your answers: Democracy party is better ms Abok Kiir than one that own by individuals. About your opinion on independent party; Iam agree with you on it, but I could tell you that most of Sudanese or southerns are dependent. Most of the people are grown in their bodies ,but they are not grown in their consciousness which will not make them to understand independent party.

          I did not mean your are drunker,but I meant your opinion.
          For those who arrested, we may leave it like that until we hear the next step.

          About the land you just march the names: Let us talk about independent first. Ngok and Dongjol are just joking to themselves because they do not have evidents that they can proved their cases. So ms Abok Kiir do not try to create new thing in the head of those Dinkas. You see now ,some of guys already started supporting your imagination. You are going to be good at science specially researches because of your imagining. See you again. (Engo loyko rot)?



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