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April 4, 2012 (JUBA/KHARTOUM) - South Sudan’s army said on Wednesday it has shot down a war plane belonging to the Sudan Armed Forces, but the latter denied Juba’s allegations.

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A resident of Guit County, showing the crater from an Antonov bomb dropped by the Sudan Armed Forces in Manga village, Unity State, South Sudan, April 1, 2012 (ST)

“Our air defence has just brought down a MiG-29 jet fighter at Teshween [Unity state] today at 15.30 hours”, the country’s deputy defence minister, Majak D’ Agoot, told Sudan Tribune on Wednesday.

D’Agoot explained that the jet fighter was shot down by the country’s military - the Sudan People’s Liberation Army (SPLA) - after SAF sent an “unmanned war plane” to photograph strategic SPLA positions on Wednesday.

Juba already accused SAF of carrying out bombing raids on Unity state on 1 April.

“The wreckages are now within the vicinity of where our forces are stationed inside territory of the Republic of South Sudan,” said D’ Agoot.

He said SAF carried out air attacks on Tuesday evening at about 10.00pm, injuring at least two civilians in Manga and Panakuach before it returned on Wednesday.

SPLA spokesman, Philip Aguer, also said South Sudan’s Air Defense Forces shot down a Sudanese MiG-29 jet fighter on Wednesday afternoon in South Sudan’s Unity state.

Aguer said he was present when the MiG was downed. He said it was one of a pair flying over the Naar and Toma oil fields and had dropped "many" bombs.

South Sudanese forces shot down the MiG with an anti-aircraft gun, he said. The Sudanese "don’t know that we have the capacity. They underestimate the SPLA," said Aguer.

Juba and Khartoum are taking part in African Union High Level Implementation Panel negotiations on various issues, including border demarcation and the payment of oil transit fees, in Addis Ababa. These talks were postponed after the relationship between the two nations dramatically deteriorated on 26 March when the two armies clashed on the ill-defined border.

However, Sudan Armed Forces (SAF)’s spokesperson, al-Sawarmi Khaled denied that one of its warplanes was shot down describing the reports as "completely inaccurate”.

Sawarmi was speaking to the press after the return of the Sudanese delegation from Addis Ababa, as the talks over the security issues between the two countries ended without agreement.

The military official said SAF had shelled with artillery rebel positions in Unity State. Khartoum claims that the SPLA attack on the Heglig oil field last week was supported by Sudanese rebels who were part of the SPLA during the north-south civil war (1983-2005). Juba’s refusal to acknowledge that it backs the SPLA Northern Sector was one of the key reasons the AU talks stalled on Wednesday.

Sudan’s defence minister Abdel Rahim Hussein said Wednesday that they told the South Sudanese delegation that accords signed with Chad should serve as a reference for north-south security agreements. The Sudan-Chad deal in January 2010 stipulated that both nations stop their support to rebel groups based on the other side of the border and form a joint border force.

As well as Khartoum claiming Juba backs rebel groups in Darfur, Blue Nile and South Kordofan; South Sudan also accuses Khartoum of aiding rebels in its territory.

The president of South Sudan, Salva Kiir claimed that the SPLA’s attack on Heglig in Sudan’s South Kordofan State was a reaction to coordinated SAF aerial attacks on the Jau and Pan Akuach border areas followed by a ground forces assault against another area called Teshwin.

However, Khartoum asserts that the SPLA entered South Kordofan attacing Heglig triggering the fighting. In March Sudan called a mass mobilisation campaign of its main paramilitary group the Popular Defence Forces (PDF).

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  • 5 April 2012 08:56, by Northern Sudanese

    where is the proof that you shot down one of our planes?????
    you can say you did shoot it down, but where is the evidence?????
    where are the images of the shot down plane????

    looool i bet this is another lie made up just like the lie of your president salva when he said SPLA had taken over Heglig lol hahahahaha

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    • 5 April 2012 09:03, by Robot

      You Northerners don’t believe or accept defeat, but as time goes on, things will start to tell and proof for themselves.

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      • 5 April 2012 11:44, by Chok Deng

        SPLA OYEEEEE!! whether denied or accepted the war plane is down.SPLA OYEEE.SPLA OYEEE, JUNUB SUDAN OYEEE,SOUTHERNERS OYEEE.
        Dear Southerners don’t argue with these fake jalaby and northern sudanese they are moving corpses(cadavers).they are not taught to accept the truth.

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        • 5 April 2012 13:21, by Force 1

          Please don’t rush to judgment by saying South Sudanese lie about this incident of war plane shot down, what if the pictures emerge by tomorrow?

          If you don’t see it on Sudan tribune other news media will show it. If it’s either true or false, we’ll know it in less than twenty-four hours.

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        • 6 April 2012 04:13, by Jimmy A. Makur

          Down down down down more war plan SPLA oyee, South Sudan oyee. Bravo SPLA you did a great job. That’s what it mean to be called a nation.

          Khartoum want test your ability so they would know better now. We ’ll tell someone to take care of Tehran!

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      • 5 April 2012 11:53, by Lang

        Stupid northerners are in denial as usual lol. Like this idiot mongrel I would like to see a picture of the downed MiGs but to print and frame it.:)

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      • 5 April 2012 17:50, by mohammed ali

        Robot,even if you down a plane, do you consider it a defeat?or is our denial is like your " recovery" of Heglig? Unfortunately , there is no winner in war! Certainly you don’t have an army to defeat the SAF.These are small clashes, let us hope there is no real war and even these clashes should also stop.There is no real benifit or use out of them!

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        • 5 April 2012 18:57, by zulu

          Mohmad,
          The fact that sudanese war plane was shot in south sudan means there is war. what brings a fighter plane within another foreign state if there is no war? if there is wisdom in khartoum, they have to utilize it for peace, settling domestic problems n encourage bilateral ties.

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        • 5 April 2012 19:31, by Tiger

          Southerners!
          these fake arabs(aka)terrorist had never accept anything from those who are non Muslim,even if you FUCK them harder in their asses will be still denying it.now let us be proud to ourselves for the action and the great deed SPLA have done,please keep gun down some more jet fighters.

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        • 5 April 2012 20:07, by Joseph Canada

          hahaha.. you think we don’t have capability right? The under dog one day will become the top dog. Give thanks ad shout to our Brothers in Televiv..

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    • 5 April 2012 09:05, by Michael Angelo

      Northern Sudan,

      What different does it make since you’re all addicted to lie. SPLM should stop negotiating with those terrorists in Khartoum and stay alert to defend our territory.

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    • 5 April 2012 09:14, by Lual Garang De Lual

      Mr. Northern Sudanese, it is not in the spirit of our gallant SPLA forces to lie for what they had not done. Mind you when they shutdown the unmanned drown last month they did release the photo of it. I am telling you, the wreckage of the Mig 29 plane will soon be displayed to the diplomatic community here in Juba to proof that you are the aggressors in this context. Bravo the SPLA, SPLA Oyeeeeeee

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    • 5 April 2012 09:18, by okucu pa lotinokwan

      To Northern Sudanese,you guy we should not deceive ourseleves in this website by writting nonesense,the evidence you want is on the ground in Unity State,go and see it by yourself and go and tell to those of Jalaby and Mohammed Ali.

      OKUCU PA LOTINOKWAN

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    • 5 April 2012 12:20, by Aarai Baka

      Just keeps denied, soon no later u will hear it n see on aljazeera news as the media teams are going to see the wrecked to prove it that mig29 has been shutdown by SPLA air defense system that was installed 4 days ago to detered SAF jets fighter for entering South air space.

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    • 5 April 2012 14:05, by Loko El Pollo

      IT CAN’T GET ANY BETTER THAN THIS.OUR NEXT MISSION IS TO MAKE SURE MUJAHIDINS ARE SHOT IN THE ASSES LIKE LAST WEEK WHEN WE SMOKED 67 TO DEATHS INCLUDING THEIR BRIG GENERAL.

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    • 6 April 2012 10:59, by Makavelli

      Northern Sudan, just be patient bro. because the
      pics are coming soon. but you have to understand
      one thing my friend, South Sudan is Sovereign
      State and they are capable of purchasing air defense
      system. Thus, you don’t have to believe anything they
      say but just be aware that they have capabilities. Also
      your government is the master of denial. And they want
      to secure their survival through S.S

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  • 5 April 2012 09:03, by Diu J.Kuek

    I have nothing more to say congratulations to SPLA.
    I don,t care for whatever in the way it was happened whether it was brought down or shot down doesn,t make any different to me.

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  • 5 April 2012 09:23, by George Bol

    SPLM/A oyeee. One more down.

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    • 5 April 2012 09:27, by Northern Sudanese

      SPLA has lots of fantasy......

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      • 5 April 2012 11:58, by MKee

        jalaby&northern sudanese
        you can’t believe it just bcos you are not in the country!What about controlling whole of south sudan, did SPLA lie as well? die dislieving and those in the field don’t underestimate SPLA and that why it had been fighting for the last 21 years unshakened. When SPLA crossed over to heglig, if u were in the country u could have known how residents in khartoum were panicking

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      • 5 April 2012 15:04, by Logic

        Abdel Rahim Hussein (Top PUSSYCAT)

        SRF are currently in Heglig, you can lie to the simple minded like you know who on this website but it wont alter the facts on the ground.

        SAF is getting a serious ass whipping daily, you should send them Nadia to sing for them and motivate them a little, at least they can enjoy life while fighting your cause. lololololol

        RETARDS!!

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  • 5 April 2012 09:30, by viper

    Jalaby, who is now controlling Hijlij oil junction? Are you now still enjoying our oil in Hijlij? Believe me Jalaby, we will soon declare a complete regime change in Khartoum if you still use those fake MIGs against our country. That MIG 29 is already down and it is up to you to either deny it, or accept it and sure you will not accept it since the habit of denying the reality wa

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    • 5 April 2012 09:40, by viper

      Con......was a legacy given to you by your great grand parents. We in the South are not known for lying except you in the North and the proof is that your former representative in the UN security council was dismissed in the UNSC because of telling lies, so that MIG29 will soon again be displayed in Juba here so that the whole world could see. NB the former representative that I mean is Abdulmoham

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    • 5 April 2012 09:41, by Northern Sudanese

      viper

      you can easily say that you shot down a plane and also that you saw the plane fall by your own eyes but, where is the proof? where are the images of the shot down plane?

      this can simply be another lie just like Heglig.....

      if they really shot down a MIG29 then they would be celebrating all day, your government lies to much....

      you know you didn’t shoot down a plane,no evidence...

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      • 5 April 2012 09:59, by viper

        Northern Sudanese you will soon be shown the wreckage in Juba international Airport as we did last time with you non man drone. Just a matter of hours. By the way don,t you know that we are now celebrating this victory in Panakuac and Teshwin as well as Hijlij? Ask your mujahidin who are in the field near Hijlij

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  • 5 April 2012 09:50, by viper

    Mr Abdelrhaim Mohammed Hussein should not bully South Sudan by proposing that this ongoing agreement in Addis Ababa should be in reference with their agreement with Tchad. Let him know that we are revolutionist and any one fighting for his right cannot be contlolled by South Sudan, not to enjoy his/her revolutionary rights in our soil as we enjoyed those rights when we were in the bush

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  • 5 April 2012 09:50, by Northern Sudanese

    yesterday i saw salva kiir shooting down a chinese military plane, i saw it with my own eyes....

    one day, 5 russian aircrafts bombed oil fields in south sudan and SPLA shot them all down, i saw it with my own eyes...

    yesterday there were 2 sudanese mig’s bombing south sudan and we downed one of them, i saw it with my own eyes...

    congratulations all true, where are the images? lol
    hahahahahahaha

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    • 5 April 2012 10:15, by Don P

      @North Sudanese
      How can anybody be so visibly ignorant? Will you stop commenting the evidence is out? And do you really believe in your heart of hearts that South Sudan can fabricate this. Your full of hate.

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      • 5 April 2012 10:23, by Xeno

        Jallabi, and North S,

        Until the end of 2005, your Government, the NIF was all these times telling the parents of thousands of dead jahidists as they were once called, that they are still in the South......that is what is called LYING idiots.

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        • 5 April 2012 11:01, by Dinkawarrior

          To President Bashit agencies! You believed it or not that plane had gone forever with those money chasers of China and Russia. And those of Arab with their horrid cultures will see and will hear that the Mighty second Israel Nation is ready to defend it territory! SPLA Oyeeee!!!!!

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  • 5 April 2012 11:00, by Dinkawarrior

    To President Bashit agences! You believed it or not that plane had gone forever with those money chasers of China and Russia. And those of Arab with their horrid cultures will see and will hear that the Mighty second Israel Nation is ready to defend it territory! SPLA Oyeeee!!!!!

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  • 5 April 2012 11:31, by Northern Sudanese

    i feel your pain south sudanese

    SPLA has humiliated the south so much that you had to make up lies about victories.......last time your president claimed victory in Heglig, his people celebrated and were sooo happy, but the next day they found their brothers all dead.

    now they claim shooting down a plane without evidence......

    next time say you destroyed SAF lol hahahahahaaha

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    • 5 April 2012 14:24, by Hitler

      Where do you study your military science damn so called Northern Sudanese? Do you understand something called Tactical withdrawal. If you don’t that is what we did. Meaning... Lesson 1. Lesson two will be when white nile and blue nile turn Red. Keep pulling our legs you fucking Jalabas.

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    • 5 April 2012 18:16, by Tiger

      Northern Sudanese!
      Just be patience,the proof will be shown to you if that’s what you’re so depending for,i know you’re hard headed people.SPLA is not faking or trying to win the favor of war over,but South Sudan government have comes to the fullest scales of tit for tat these days,no more peace with you guys,all the terrorist jet fighters must be gun down by any mean.

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  • 5 April 2012 11:31, by wad balad

    ya Janoneen,

    For argument sake lets say the SPLM shot down one of Sudan’s MiG-29. This doesnt not change anything. It doesnt not tip the Military balance in favour of SPLM nor does it mean SPLM is now capable of defeating SAF. You need to change your mentality for peace and stop supporting rebels. That will be your geatest victory.

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    • 5 April 2012 11:50, by Abraham

      Northern Sudan and Jalaba;
      Why are you so bothered to see evidence? When did you become judges of crisis between North Sudan and Sudan? You don’t have to see evidence here to believe what is being reported...if anything then ask Sudantribune’s reporters. If not true, tribune could have not reported it. And by the way, this incident led your Northern Sudan’s delegation to pull out from Addisababa.

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      • 5 April 2012 13:09, by Northern Sudanese

        Abraham

        yesterday after you downed our plane we went bombing juba and we attacked your ministry of defence and killed your minister.........you dont have to see evidence because you are not judges..........

        we killed your minister and bombed juba with no evidence........

        lol hahahhaahhahaha

        tit for tat

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    • 5 April 2012 15:40, by zulu

      Wadbalad
      i think you ignore the fact that by shooting down the fighter get, the action weakens ground force attach since airforce is used to support ground forces. Beileve me heiglig is now under the spla. it has fallen again this time for good.

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    • 5 April 2012 18:30, by Tiger

      Wad Balad(balad monu ya Omaar)???????.
      Listen!South Sudanese are not desperate for your jet fighter being gundown,infact SPLA used to gun them down before,the truth is quite clear"why don’t you people accept the fact while the world is talking about the Sudanese Mig jet fighter that it had been shutdown.don’t you people believe that the SPLA has a capabilities to gundown terrorist planes or what?

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  • 5 April 2012 12:16, by Daniel Buolmawei

    ’Chad should serves as reference for the security agreement. Referring to a deal inked in January 2010 providing that Sudan and Chad stop their support to the rebel groups based on the two sides and form a joint border force."

    We completely reject such agreement. That agreement is cowardic on the part of Chad. An agreement from a president who married to a terrorist’s daughater.

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  • 5 April 2012 12:18, by Daniel Buolmawei

    We don’t care, you support southern militias against us for centuries but we are still going and standing firm. Just continue supporting whatever militias against us as usual.

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  • 5 April 2012 22:34, by E. Defense Forces
  • 6 April 2012 06:51, by Clausewitz

    There’s something awry regarding the account of this bombardment. We’re told that this occured in Manga and are then provided with a picture that would have us believe that Manga is in Guit county... when this is not at all the case! Manga is in Pariang county. Taban is trying to annex and appropriate the oil rich territories of Dinka Panaruu to Nuer territories.

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    • 6 April 2012 07:21, by Clausewitz

      The Dinka as a whole must make it very clear to the Nuer that Dinka territories are not going to be appropriated by anyone. This state must be partitioned; Biemnom and Pariang must be extricated from Unity State and must then form their own State.

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