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Sudan’s Foreign Minister says no deal over oil issue in Bashir - Kiir meeting

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July 16, 2012 (KHARTOUM) - Sudan foreign minister denied that Sudan and South Sudan have reached an agreement over pipeline transit fees during the one-to-one meeting between presidents Omar Al-Bashir and Salva Kiir on Saturday.

Sudan’s foreign minister Ali Ahmed Karti (SUNA)

Ali Ahmed Karti told reporters in Khartoum, after his return with the President Bashir, that the "priority is now given to the security matters", pointing out that the issue of oil was not even discussed.

Reports published in Khartoum said the two presidents agreed on eight dollars per barrel but Karti dismissed this agreement describing it as "pure fantasy".

Salva Kir in the past rejected Sudan’s demand of $32 in transit fees per barrel of oil. Juba offered less than one dollar based on a agreement signed between Chad and Cameroon. But Khartoum refused the comparison between the two pipelines.

The Sudanese minister however underlined that the Bashir-Kiir meeting opened the door for greater confidence between the parties and facilitates the work of the negotiating teams on the outstanding issues.

In January South Sudan decided to shut down its oil production and accused Khartoum of stealing its resources, while Khartoum said that Juba refused to reach an agreement over oil and at the same time funded rebels who want to topple down Sudan’s regime.

Earlier this month the two parties agreed to build confidence, to settle their disputes peacefully and to cooperate closely in the ongoing talks over the unresolved issues.

Karti’s statements however showed that Khartoum still sticks to its approach of security first. The Sudanese government demands that South Sudan expels Darfur rebel groups and pushes Sudan People’s Liberation Movement - North (SPLM-N) of South Kordofan and Blue Nile to reach a negotiated deal.

In Addis Ababa, the new United Nations (UN) Deputy Secretary General Jan Eliasson met on Monday with South Sudanese President, Salva Kiir. The discussion focused on the negotiations between Sudan and South Sudan and the implementation of UN Security Council Resolution 2046.

Eliasson, who served in the past as UN mediator for the Darfur conflict, urged the need for an agreement on the buffer zone to begin the Joint Border Verification and Monitoring Mechanism (JBVMM).

The meeting also talked about the humanitarian situation in Sudan’s South Kordofan and Blue Nile states as the South Sudan hosts some two hundred thousand Sudanese refugees.

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  • 17 July 2012 09:44, by zulu

    Kharti
    We do not care about security either. We just care about the border and the issue of blue nile and Nuba mountains. you can go to hell with your security as long as you fail to honor agreements, we have no confidence in you, nor your president.

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    • 17 July 2012 10:58, by Johndumo14

      Oil or no oil, South sudan can survive without oil,our main concern right now is the demarceting of the border.
      Omar Albashir is not new to us south sudanese,he comitted a lot of crimes against south and Sudan,there is nothing good coming out of Khartoum,Omar was pretending smiling,when he meet Salva Kiir,in Addis,but before he said south sudan`s leader is insect.Why he want peace now?

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      • 17 July 2012 11:29, by master

        kiir is insect and u insect what is the new

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        • 17 July 2012 22:58, by Hardball

          Hey Chief, just because the parasite is denied to be feed doesn’t make someone an insect!

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    • 17 July 2012 11:11, by Johndumo14

      THIS DEMAND BY KHARTOUM,IS IMPOSIBLE,SALVA KIIR WILL NOT DO IT.THSE PEOPLE ARE SUDANESE AND ARE FIGHTING FOR THEIR FREEDOM.OK TO DO THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE MAP.South Kordofan AND Blue Nile WILL BE PART OF SOUTH SUDAN THEN WE CAN AGREE!Sudanese government demands that South Sudan expels Darfur rebel groups and pushes SPLM-North of South Kordofan and Blue Nile to reach a negotiated deal.

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      • 17 July 2012 11:18, by Johndumo14

        THE SOTH KORDOFAN AND BLUE NILE WILL BE PART OF SOUTH SUDAN
        THEY ARE NOT ARABS,THEY ARE OUR BROTHERS ,BECAUSE KHARTOUM HAS SAID SOUTH SUDAN HAVE TO TAKE THEM,WE HAVE AGREED ,SINCE KHARTOUM ARE GOING TO USE THEM LIKE LAVES,WE TAKE THE PEOPLE AND THEIR LAND,KHARTOUM WANT THE LAND WITHOUT PEOPLE,BUT WE WANT THE PEOPLE AND THEIR LAND TOO!

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    • 17 July 2012 11:39, by Augustino Ambros

      Yep man! becaause we don’t care of all those. Including the security they are now saying, does it concerned as us, we South Sudanese?

      As well as your security fail to ccontrol, same as meanless.
      Upon the fact that you people don’t honor issue.

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    • 17 July 2012 15:37, by Anti Dinka’s

      Southerness you will never see peace or progress
      in all fields border, oil, the so call 4 agreement these thing shall never happen
      as long the Devil NCP is in power

      The Dinka’s president must Not shake hands with our ultimate enemy

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    • 17 July 2012 15:57, by mohammed ali

      Zulu, let be very clear, BN and Nuba Mountain is part of Sudan. Any interference will punished very severly. Much more severe than the punishment in Heglig.Oil is yours, drink it.If you think that you can pressuries us through BN & SK then you are wrong.It will be a bad mistake and you will get right punishment.No games!

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      • 17 July 2012 17:18, by zulu

        Mohamade,
        I assure you very clearly, that SAF is nothing, to us. The lesson of Panthou must be the LCM. We are capable of even taking those two states should you consider that they are part of Sudanese garbage.
        Second, all those disputed areas will be ours peacefully or not. Mighty SPLA is a very capable army and is even armed to the teeth with high moral. Thank God Kiir is still CIC/

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        • 17 July 2012 20:28, by mohammed ali

          Zulu,Some pple need repetion to understand a lesson. You didn’t learn from Abeyei and you didn’t learn from Heglig! The third lesson will be devastating!Simply because the innocent,poor, starving & marginalised pple of SS will not go to die for you while you are siphone their money to live with it in Australia.Enjoy the leadership of the Thief & Boss of the Thieves.SPLA moral is down to earth.

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    • 17 July 2012 21:40, by panom lualbil

      KARTI?
      No deal or yes deal we will use that pipe for peeing. While switching our to others, you’ll shruk with eyes balling and say ’wow’ it was a deal but too late. Becoz $8 dollars we would grant to your fuck up economy was really a deal in comparison with international fees.

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      • 17 July 2012 21:51, by panom lualbil

        Though, our main issues to get over with are ’contested areas and borders demarcated. Then after, we should even ignore your NASTY invitation to addis ababa ethiopia.

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  • 17 July 2012 09:52, by okucu pa lotinokwan

    I do Tell you that NCP are Chameloon,can change its colour any where and at any time,and again tomorrow you will hear different thing all togather for current negotiation in Adis-Ababa,no trust in Khartoum only war will be the solution.

    OKUCU PA LOTINOKWAN

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    • 17 July 2012 10:37, by J P Puok

      yes, all over again and again. if at all the southerners do sympazised with these freedom fighters why not? what of these groups they are keeping in Omduraman and Kalakalat who terrorised unity state and upper Nile at will only when the mighty SPLA put this to fullstop earlier this year when these mecenaries were tuaght a lesson they will never forget together with their masters.
      God us southerner

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  • 17 July 2012 10:42, by kimo

    what the ncp is saying is logical,security issues first,,,coz you can not jump over unsolved security issues and make a trade deal!!!its those security differences that are likely to drag the two countries into war again,,does a trade deal between the two countries continues if any war broke out??

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    • 17 July 2012 11:01, by Nibs

      @kimo, security is your internal problems, negotiate with srf and don’t drag splm into that shit,ok.

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    • 17 July 2012 17:24, by zulu

      Kimo,

      We do not even want to trade with you. What do we expect to buy from you anyhow? We have 5 nice neighbors with a port specifically designated for South Sudan. the land is agricultural. We hav refineries and we can buy pepsi or coke from our neighbors. we are producing our own beers. Kisra, we do not eat it any longer. We hat the North. Full stop.

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  • 17 July 2012 15:07, by Anti Terror Anti

    U ARABS, R U CRAZY!! WHO SAID 8 DOLLARS? R U DREAMING!! DO U THINK WE HAVE HURRY WITH OUR TRUELY RESOURCES? ...NO MORE NEGOTIATION ON OIL WITH OLD SUDAN...WE HAVE CLOSED DOWN AND THAT IS IT. GO AND FILE THE CASE NETHERLAND. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF BROTHERHOOD ARE U GOING TO ACCEPT 1 DOLLAR PER BARREL TO HIRE UR LINE FROM PORT SUDAN

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    • 17 July 2012 15:49, by mohammed ali

      Anti, you closed down your oil production, that is your bussiness not ours; just keep it closed and tell your Pagan to stop lying about oil production.It was not even discussed.Security is what concen us, border demarcation is part of it.If you interfer in our affairs we will do the same. That is obvious; President Basheer said that very clearly.Oil is yours, you shut it, burn it, drink it...con

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      • 17 July 2012 16:02, by mohammed ali

        con:Any time you want to start , just e-mail , we will send you our offer for in writting.

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  • 17 July 2012 15:58, by Beneben Bai

    Northern Kimo, what you are saying is very stupid. I said several times that you can not have security while the causes of insecurity are not rooted out. How do you expect security situation while you did not solve the issue of SK, BN and militia in Omdurman and Khartoum with trainng center in Kharasana plus that borders are not demarcated leave alone the issue of oil that could be solved

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    • 17 July 2012 16:30, by mohammed ali

      Bai, BN & SK is our problems, our business , it is not yours! We don’t want you to intrfer in our intrnal affairs . That is simple & clear!

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      • 17 July 2012 17:29, by zulu

        These two are part of our problem just as Abyei is. You cannot sign and agreement then renege because the south has gone. that is not a wise desicion as it turned out to be. Do you realize that SPLA was one, militarily supplying all of its divisions with the same arms and training. Now because they are mighty you tell us we are interfering. We are applying what you apply. It hurts, and let it hurt

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  • 17 July 2012 16:05, by Beneben Bai

    Mohamed Ali, since you know oil is ours why have you been stealling it? and why is it on the agenda? why don’t you tell the SC and AU to take it out from the agenda? and why do every one keep mentioning that South Sudan went away with 75% oil and thats why Sudan is affected economically? and you keep saying that South shut down oil because they need reqieme in khartoum to fall??? please answer me

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  • 17 July 2012 16:14, by Beneben Bai

    Mohamed Ali, you know us well. we confronted Sudan for more than 50 years without being a state. now the situation is different so don’t tell us that you will show us. U know when we took action not only you cry, but the world also got supprised that how comes a less than one year state is putting a country with 56 year simply in a mess twice and within less than one month.

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  • 17 July 2012 16:19, by Beneben Bai

    Mohamed Ali, if you have an offer you would hve given it to your protesting population in khartoum and el Obeid with your currency reached SDG 6.2 per USD 1 in the market. You are joking my freind

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  • 17 July 2012 19:58, by Mapuor

    Mohammed Ali

    World has become a small village,what is discussed in Khartoum can reach America in seconds,leave alone South Sudan.Inflation in Sudan is currently a big problem,racial wars betweein blacks and Arabs in Sudan is also another problem.Sudan is yet to split along racial lines if the current trend continues

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    • 18 July 2012 00:32, by sudani ana

      Mapuor
      And what about racial wars in SS. What about the wars and killings between Lou Nuer/ Dinka and Morle, what about wars between Dinka and Nuers in the past with the hatred still simmering and could boil to the surface any moment. You guys need to stop trying to play this racial card in Sudan because you are not Sudanese any more, you are south Sudanese so deal with your own problems and we ..

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      • 18 July 2012 00:39, by sudani ana

        We will deal with ours. It was different with Southernors, nothing united us, different race, religion, culture, language, everything. It was a false unity engineered by the British colonialists. It’s not the same in Sudan now. We are united by religion, blood, culture and by our love for our land. So get a life and work hard to solve the problems in your own country.

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  • 19 July 2012 11:45, by youngboy

    i dont know what’s wrong with southerner ,so we dont care if No deal made during meeting with Northerner President ,that is wast of money if you dont have anything to do with that money you batter give out to the Citizen ,even without oil we can live,if i were president i’ll stop everything between two nation

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