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October 26, 2014 (JUBA) – South Sudan’s president, Salva Kiir, has unconditionally accepted the adoption of a federal system of governance in the country, including all accompanying reforms, a high-level presidential source disclosed on Sunday.

South Sudanese President Salva Kiir (Photo: AP/Sayyid Azim)

According to the source, the president also agreed to share power with the armed opposition movement under the leadership of former vice-president Riek Machar, in line with the protocol of agreed principles as set down by the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD), which is mediating peace talks between the two warring parties.

“The breakthrough which the IGAD chief mediator announced on Wednesday after the close of the mini summit is the acceptance of Riek Machar to recognise president Salva Kiir as the democratically elected and the constitutionally mandated president of the Republic of South Sudan and that he would not continue to advocate for his removal by force,” the source told Sudan Tribune.

“In this context, the president accepted without condition to share power with [the] rebels. He will accept whoever they will nominate to the post of prime ministers,” he added.

Significantly, this would waive Kiir’s right to veto nominees to the post of prime minister.

The issue of federalism has long caused unnecessary division within the country and among citizens, the presidential aide said.

Ongoing debate surrounding federalism was the trigger for repeated conflict with successive governments in Sudan, from which the South seceded in 2011 after the signing of the 2005 comprehensive peace agreement (CPA) ended more than two decades of civil war and paved the way for a referendum on self determination.

“The president never opposed federalism. What he has been saying is that any system of governance should be decided by the people of South Sudan through an all-inclusive process, like the current constitutional-making process, because this is a very important matter to be decided by individuals or institutions,” the source said.

“But because it seems that he has been misunderstood, including our friends and political allies from the region, he accepted to remove any obstacle to the peace process, including the issue of federalism,” he added.

Leading opposition figures said they were informed of Kiir’s decision by Kenyan president Uhuru Kenyatta and the Ethiopian and Uganda prime ministers, who attended the one-day mini summit in the capital, Juba, on 22 October.

“Our colleagues attending [a] leadership briefing in Nairobi, Kenya, have told us that Salva Kiir has accepted that he will not have any veto power on our nominee to the post of prime minister,” rebel spokesperson Abdullah Kuot said.

“From one side, and this is just my opinion, there is no other person than our chairman, comrade Dr Riek Machar,” he added.

Kuot, a former Northern Bahr el Ghazal MP who defected to the rebel faction, told Sudan Tribune on Sunday that the reforms would cover all sectors, including security, public service, finance, foreign relations and governance.

He said the opposition movement was also committed to combating corruption and nepotism and planned to focus efforts on restoring public confidence and trust in public institutions.

If confirmed, observers say the agreement would represent a major concession on the part of Kiir and would demonstrate his government’s commitment to resolving the conflict through peaceful dialogue.

An IGAD summit is expected to be convened next week in Ethiopia.

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  • 27 October 2014 05:37, by Mi diit

    I knew you would surrender to federalism like you surrendered to self-determination before. What you all need is leadership to loot with. You resisted self-determination and caused unnecessary death and surrendered lastly. Now you caused another death for resisting federalism and democracy and will also surrender to them. But you will lose leadership as well this time. Shame on visionless Nyankiir

    • 27 October 2014 05:41, by Mi diit

      Even looking into your eyes in that picture clearly shows that you are visionless. What is on your head is just that cowboy hat. What a shame for South Sudanese that they are led by primitive, village chief who doesn’t understand how what it means to be a leader or how the world operates. I pity the people of South Sudan for being cursed with Nyankiir Museveni as a president. Damn!

      • 27 October 2014 06:14, by Chol A.

        Midiit that is Kiir’s opinion to accept federalism but not all South Sudanese are agreed to this point. Please do not assumed as serrandered to your primitive views because Kiir knew that you will rebel again tomorrow even if he agreed to federal system or any demand made by you since we know you Nuer very well you dumb and more primitive minded people than any others tribes in this country.

      • 27 October 2014 07:06, by Rommel

        Mi diit:

        Riek is not the originator or champion of self-determination and federalism. This has long been the demand of our people, and it was reaffirmed by Dr. John Garang in 1972, in a letter sent to Joseph Lagu. In this letter, Dr. John Garang made the point "that a region retains the right to secede from the federation if its interests are not adequately served by the federation.

        • 27 October 2014 07:08, by Rommel

          Furthermore, he said:

          It must be clear to Southerners that the retention of the right to secede from such a federation must be guaranteed by the federal constitution and by the existence of a physical Southern Armed Forces.

          • 27 October 2014 07:10, by Rommel

            Dr. John Garang understood that the people of South Sudan wanted to secede, but he also understood that ’international’ political and military support for an explicitly secessionist movement would not have been forthcoming, and more importantly, it would have completely alienated the people of the Nuba mountains and Blue Nile...

            • 27 October 2014 07:11, by Rommel

              .. And it would have deprived us of a means of putting pressure to bear on Khartoum in the North. Anyone who thinks that Dr. John Garang wanted to deny us the right to self-determination need only refer to his letter to Gen. Joseph Lagu. In this letter, Garang wanted to accord the right to self-determination to any region in Sudan that felt that secession would serve its interests.

              • 27 October 2014 07:13, by Rommel

                Dr. John Garang made it clear in his 1972 letter to Joseph Lagu that South Sudan had the right to secede and that it could only guarantee this right with its own army. You guys went the other way round. You got it backwards. You thought that Khartoum would take you more seriously the more dependent you became. Riek admitted that he got cheated. He didn’t get cheated, he’s just an idiot.

                • 27 October 2014 07:14, by Rommel

                  Riek did not deliver Self-Determination to the people of South Sudan — he delivered internecine tribal war and our oilfields to Khartoum. That’s his legacy. The legacy that allowed Khartoum to arm itself like never before with sophisticated and devastating weapons, to the tune of billions of dollars and to the attendant lost of tens of thousands and the misery of millions of lives.

                  • 27 October 2014 07:16, by Rommel

                    The late Dr. John Garang very well understood that you couldn’t possibly be taken seriously by Khartoum and achieve a political settlement with the Ignaz Nazis, without an independent army. You cannot achieve anything without an independent source of funding, a separate source of weaponry and ammunition and a separate line of logistics.

                    • 27 October 2014 07:17, by Rommel

                      Why did you rely upon the grace of a political unit that you so ostensibly wished to distance yourself from!? You cannot seek independence from someone when you’re wholly reliant upon them for every nail, every litre of oil, every platform, every box of ammunition and their logistical support. You didn’t know what you were doing! Even your precious idiot idol admits that he was ’cheated’.

                      • 27 October 2014 07:28, by Rommel

                        There’s not a single impartial historian that asserts that Riek’s foolish alliances with Khartoum directly laid the groundwork for our independence. The 1997 agreement did not have the express support and involvement of the United States or any other actors of international significance. Riek’s pathetic agreement was doomed to failure from the onset.

                        • 27 October 2014 07:29, by Rommel

                          You seem to desperately want to believe that Riek knew exactly what he was doing after having failed so miserably during the war. Did he know what he was doing when he committed the folly of being so desperately reliant upon Khartoum’s supplies, weapons, ammunition and logistical support!?

                          • 27 October 2014 07:29, by Rommel

                            Did Riek know what he was doing when Khartoum increased its military presence in the oilfields, in an absolute, definite and conspicuous display of contempt and disregard for Riek after they promised him control of the oilfields!? Did Riek know what he was doing when Khartoum used Matip to force him out of Unity State!?

                            • 27 October 2014 07:31, by Rommel

                              Did Riek know what he was doing when he admitted that he got "cheated" [his words not mine] by Khartoum into thinking that they had any intention of honoring any part (s) of the agreements that he signed with them!? He didn’t know what he was doing.

                              • 27 October 2014 07:33, by Rommel

                                "The government benefited substantially from the split inside the SPLA. The government had encouraged the split by sending false signals that it might let the South secede." (Sudan-Contested identities, Ann Lesch)

                                • 27 October 2014 07:35, by Rommel

                                  Once the split occurred, the government developed a four-prong strategy that encouraged Riek machar to fight the SPLA. It backed away from offering independence, mounted large scale offences against Garang’s forces and used the disintegration of the SPLA to facilitate its repression of the African people in Southern Kordofan, Darfur and Southern Blue Nile. (Sudan-Contested identities)

                                  • 27 October 2014 07:39, by Rommel

                                    Dr. John Garang made it very clear that autonomy or independence couldn’t be "guaranteed by a few phrases scribbled on some sheets of paper stapled and bound together and christened “The Constitution”." Dr. John Garang wrote that in 1972, in a letter to Joseph Lagu, warning that the Addis Ababa Agreement would be dishonored in its entirety if the South didn’t have a truly independent army.

                                    • 27 October 2014 07:41, by Rommel

                                      You [Riek’s supporters] quite laughably try to justify Riek’s stupidity by saying that he succeded in getting Khartoum to enshrine the right to self-determination in the ’constitution’. Khartoum doesn’t regard documents, agreements, conventions and constitutions as worthy of compliance in the absence of force. Does it have any regard for the Geneva convention!? Of course it doesn’t...

                                      • 27 October 2014 07:42, by Rommel

                                        .. So what makes you people think that Khartoum would regard the KPA with even a smidgen of sanctity!? Riek is a third rate warlord. They played that fool like a banjo. He was trapped. He couldn’t do anything without their approval. He needed Khartoum to supply him with platforms, weapons, ammunition, fuel, food-relief... everything!

                                        • 27 October 2014 07:42, by Rommel

                                          The fact that Khartoum feigned sincerity when it enshrined the right to Self-Determination in the Constitution speaks volume of their cunning and political skill... and of their ability to manipulate the stupid, the naive and the myopic. Khartoum had no intention of honoring these commitments, especially when it was they that armed, fed and provided Riek’s forces with logistical support.

                                          • 27 October 2014 07:44, by Rommel

                                            Every tenant of the KPA was dishonored. Riek was promised control of the oilfields; Riek was promised a referendum; Riek was promised respect as an equal... but Riek didn’t get any of these, did he now? The KPA had security arrangement weakness, just like the Addis Ababa agreement.

        • 27 October 2014 12:21, by Mr Point

          This is an excellent series of comments from Rommel,which correctly explain the situation with Riek Machar and the KPA in 1998.

          It is not so helpful or relevant to today. It does not deal with the fact that Kiir has thrown our Dr John Garang’s achievement. We had the triumph of independence followed by failure after failure. South Sudan has been brought down to a failed state by Salva Kiir.

          • 27 October 2014 12:40, by Rommel

            Mr Point:

            Thank you for your kind words, and I completely agree with you on Salva’s utter failure and his systematic repudiation of all that we espoused and physically fought for. I disagree with you on the apparent uselessness of the detailed documentation I presented on Riek’s stupidity, myopia and failure as a ’leader’...

            • 27 October 2014 12:49, by Rommel

              ..I very much believe that being aware of Riek’s documented history as a human rights abuser, an autocrat, a traitor and a complete failure, is of tremendous importance especially when Riek is desperately trying to present himself as some kind of reformer and human rights champion despite the fact that he is guilty of having murdered close to 30, 000 civilians in the 90s.

    • 27 October 2014 06:48, by Johndumo14

      Dr Riek Machar,must be held responsible for the killing and distructions caused in the 3 states,BOR,Bentiu and Malakal.
      He ordered the mobilization of un trained civilians nuer children under 18 to carry out the killing and looting,people who don`t know the rules of war,this is not only a negative force but a terrorism ,and must be treated as terrorist groupsthey are not combatants,DrMacharakiller

    • 27 October 2014 06:58, by Redeemer

      Mi Diit
      The issue was not surrendering to self-determination but it was made in a way that Riek can’t understand but tell the forum here
      1 What happened to his self-determination?
      2 Why did he failed miserably?

      • 27 October 2014 07:30, by Redeemer

        Mi diit
        1991 and 2013 are tribal determination vision of Dr. Riek Machar

    • 27 October 2014 11:21, by Johndumo14

      WHERE IS DAVID YAU YAU NOW??
      He is not talking or and his rebels army not fighting any more,what happened to him?
      He is given position and food,most of these generals fighting for pssition and money,soon Dr Riek Machar will do the same after lot of lives and properties lost,shame a big same to them.Even now we don`t hear any more from Dr Riek Machar,he is silent,because PM post is near his door

    • 27 October 2014 11:50, by Mayom County Boy

      those who think that riek machar must be leader when he come are fool indeed
      no body could accepted him
      why riek machar like to use force against is people always
      we need him to be elected like the way we elected Mr. President Salva Mayardit

    • 27 October 2014 14:50, by Simon Peter Wal

      where are Warap youths who traded accusations of unpartiotism to those who called for Federalism? this time around they need to cop with Beny’s new direction.

      • 28 October 2014 06:01, by Nyesi Ta

        The Warap Youth who accused others of being unpatriotic should come out and condemn the unpatriotic Kiir for succumbing to federalism. If they do not condemn the president then they may be seen as mayor political Hippocrates driven by tribal tendency.

  • 27 October 2014 05:51, by choldit

    It has never been an issue of Kiir being elected by pple or not but a question of whether he should continue to rule the pple he innocently killed using his tribal militant and foreign mascenaries like UPDF, Sudanese rebels, M23 and others. It is also a question of head of govt prime minister vs head of state ceremonial president.

  • 27 October 2014 05:56, by George Bol

    If you dont like President kiir Mayardit, you hung yourself. Federal system is nothing because its the same system govt of south sudan has been governed. Even Somalia is a federal state but has been failed state. So cam down, you have heard that your leader riek machar has agreed that Salva is an elected leader and he will remain as a president while he wiil tame PM. You will like ISIL and m23

    • 27 October 2014 06:26, by wang

      George Bol
      Nobody would hang him/herself, because Mrs. Kiir M7 will be kill by his own Dinka as they already attempted to their Chief of General Staffs…

  • 27 October 2014 06:19, by dinkdong

    They (the government) will deny that report tomorrow.

  • 27 October 2014 06:32, by wang

    Dealing with Dr. Riek is not an easy task. Mrs. Kiir M7 and his camp were surrendered against to Dr. Riek’s ideas of the adoption of a federal system of governance in the country. They unconditionally also accepted that the Prime Ministers will have all the executives’ rules to leads the govt. further, agreement, both two armies would stay separate till the national election is being conducted in

    • 27 October 2014 06:32, by wang

      further, agreement, both two armies would stay separate till the national election is being conducted in a near future. Kiir is a symbol of death…

      • 27 October 2014 07:02, by Malakal county Simon

        If Dr Machar is willing to buy a cheap deal and under Killer/Kiir again this time will be only for his own interest.... the Free-dom Fighters are here to liberate South Sudanese peoples from current tyranny regime and the struggles shall continues until illegitimate/foolish president is remove by force and new democratic government shall be install soon....

        • 27 October 2014 07:27, by Chol A.

          @Malakal nyagat Simon that will be good dream if your so call freedom fighters manage to liberates South Sudan.

      • 27 October 2014 07:38, by Redeemer

        Wang
        So you are trying to buy SPLM’s CPA strategy No way !!!!! we are going to use 1997 khartoum agreement document

  • 27 October 2014 09:13, by Marco Bul

    Mff!!
    He agrees everything after refusing.
    1.He refused reforms and later agreed.
    2.He refused to release G11 and later succumbed
    3.He refused federalism and now he accepted
    4.He refused power sharing and later say "yes" to it.
    5.And many more.
    Why allowing more death for 9+ months??

    • 27 October 2014 09:35, by Rev. Saturnino

      It’s indeed a Godly intervention. May God bless our President for accepting all the difficult conditions for the sake of Peace. May the good Lord bless and forgive all the sins committed by South Sudanese themselves, for they do not know what they were doing. May God bless Dr. Riak for his determination and understanding for the sake of Peace. PRAISE THE LORD !!! PEACE IS SOON BACK. Our God is abl

  • 27 October 2014 15:35, by Kim Deng

    Garang’s “New Sudan,” vision did not accomplish anything, but setbacks, chaos, death, subjugation by terror and epic conflicts. Did Garang’s SPLA/M have the political will and muscles to confront both the main enemy (NIF/NCP) and the separatists at the same time?

  • 27 October 2014 15:37, by Kim Deng

    And of course, as a result of Nasir move, Garang divorced and abandoned the alliance, called SPLA/M 1st National Convent at Chukudum in 1994 and the self-determination for South Sudan was the first agenda in that Convention. The movement changed from its former name SPLA/M as it was well-known back then to SPLM/A. Garang put self-determination for South Sudan to be the first agenda/priority...

  • 27 October 2014 15:39, by Kim Deng

    whenever there is a peace talks with Khartoum government and Garang himself eventually signed for it, the self-determination for people of Southern Sudan in CPA. Garang gave up his “New Sudan,” vision, a vision he always refers as a “vision of no-return.”

  • 27 October 2014 15:41, by Kim Deng

    This raised too many unsettling questions from his allies especially the inner circle of NDA, Nuba Mountains and Blue Nile who were oblivious and betrayed at the same time by his self-observed “New Sudan,” vision until they realized that Garang shamelessly made a U-turn which left them in illusion.

  • 27 October 2014 15:48, by Kim Deng

    Jaang/Slaves,

    If your first King, Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang was forced by the King of the Jungle, Dr. Riek Machar Teny-dhurgon to make U-turn, why not your coward King, Mr. Slava?

    • 27 October 2014 18:38, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      People that were *slaves* of the Arabs during the war really shouldn’t try to apply this word onto others. You were the slaves and Khartoum regarded you as such. They never respected you even after you served their interests like good little slaves. You were nothing but oilfield guard-dogs.

      • 27 October 2014 18:39, by Rommel

        There was no ’U-turn’. How many times must I inform you that historians have affirmed, that under Dr. John Garang, the independence option was there before the Nasir declaration. You don’t like the truth and prefer to make up reasons for believing in nonsense, so you continuously pretend not to understand a word I say.

        • 27 October 2014 18:39, by Rommel

          On the 29th of July [one month prior to the Nasir Declaration] the SPLM/A informed the Sudanese government that Self-Determination was to be discussed for the Abuja agenda. This is confirmed by the works of scholars such as Ann Lesch.

          • 27 October 2014 18:40, by Rommel

            .."the independence option was therefore included in the still-united SPLM’s proposal for the Abuja agenda that was submitted to Nigerian and Sudanese government on 29th July 1991". (The Battle for Peace in Sudan: An Analysis of Abuja Conferences 1992–1993’, Ann Lesch)

            • 27 October 2014 18:41, by Rommel

              In a letter sent to Joseph Lagu in 1972, Dr. John Garang makes the point "that a region retains the right to secede from the federation if its interests are not adequately served by the federation."

      • 28 October 2014 00:51, by Malakal county Simon

        Slave/Rommel

        For information; The name Jaang itself in Nuer language mean slave, nothing will change that embarrassing name!! Just like you’re known as coward tribe in South Sudan......

        • 28 October 2014 06:02, by Rommel

          Low IQ, Ngundeng believing Arab slave/ Malakal county Simon:

          Jaang and Jieng are merely truncated derivatives of Muonjang, a name that we use to refer to ourselves, and it certainly doesn’t carry any connotations relating to slavery. I don’t care how your primitive language defines it. Nothing will change the fact that you were Khartoum’s compliant, pathetic little slaves.

          • 28 October 2014 06:13, by Rommel

            You were Khartoum’s little slaves in greater Upper Nile. You defended oilfields on their behalf and made desperate alliances with the SAF, PDF and the various Baggara Arab tribes. The Dinka were the opposite. That’s why Khartoum hated us. That’s why they targeted us and cosied up to you. You complain about three [3] to four [4] thousand Ugandan soldiers when we had to deal with an entire army.

            • 28 October 2014 06:17, by Rommel

              ..You’re ashamed and this is what your posts are all about. You were desperate cowards. You are projecting. In psychological terms, projectionism is when someone projects their own noxious qualities onto someone else, and then censures the recipient for now apparently possessing those noxious qualities.

              • 28 October 2014 06:21, by Rommel

                "Cowards" don’t lose over a million people trying to maintain their freedom, you hateful sap. Did we defend oilfields on behalf of the Arab oligarchy!? Did we rely on their weapons, ammunition, supplies and logistical support!? Did we engage in military operations in tandem with the Arabs!? We didn’t do any of these things... but *you* know who did, don’t you?

                • 28 October 2014 06:26, by Rommel

                  There’s not a single tribe in all of Sudan [North & South] that doesn’t know that you formed desperate and shameful military alliances with the various regimes in Khartoum, with a clear emphasis on forming alliances with the SAF, PDF and the Misseriya and the Rizeigat Arab tribes. You’re the cowards. Stupid slaves.

  • 27 October 2014 23:39, by Kim Deng

    In war, the skin of Fox is at times as necessary as that of a Lion, for cunning may succeed when force fails. Speaking from his underground rally as mentioned so far, in a message to his disciples, he declared that “the first bullet must be fired against the separatists [Anya Nya II,” as an attempt to impose his self-claimed “New Sudan,” vision on Southern Sudanese and hijacked the movement...

  • 27 October 2014 23:42, by Kim Deng

    from its founders [separatists] altogether, coincidence?
    To make the matter worse, after Col. Dr. Garang’s group secured its position against Lt. Col. Samuel Gai Tut’s group, the seizure of Lt. Col. Samuel’s group by Mr. Marxist-Leninist Garang group did not satisfy Garang’s appetite, but went further and channeled his doom plan to annihilate the [Anya-Nya II] in Bilpam by force due to...

  • 27 October 2014 23:43, by Kim Deng

    fact that this secessionists’ movement shared the same principles and objectives with camp A. Therefore, to secure the “New Sudan,” vision fully, “the Anya Nya II HQTRs, Bilpam must be destroyed and/or dislodged from its foundation,” Garang declared. And on other hand, Mr. Mengistu Hailemariam of Ethiopia, a man who got separatist rebels’ movements [Woyane & Shabiah] in his own backyard seemed...

  • 27 October 2014 23:44, by Kim Deng

    to forget that his government had her own chestnuts roasting in the store for it, impose his socialist ideology on southern Sudanese and that mission must be fulfilled by someone who believes in that vision; “Dr. Garang must be the right person,” according to calculation of “Dergue” regime base on its interests and bipartisan issues between the two allies.

  • 27 October 2014 23:50, by Kim Deng

    The vast area appropriated by the Nuer during the nineteenth century was formerly occupied by a Dinka, Anyuak and Burun population. The fate of this population is one of the most interesting questions pertaining to Nuer expansion. How many Dinka, Anyuak, Burun… were killed by the Nuer? How many died of starvation? How many migrated to other areas? And how many were assimilated into Nuer community?

    • 28 October 2014 06:31, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Your posts are just blobs of incoherent and unsubstantiated spam. There’s no substance at all. I’ve shown you that Dr. John Garang clearly wanted to accord South Sudan [in addition to every other region] the right to secede as far back as 1972, and that this was reaffirmed one month prior to the Nasir declaration.

      • 28 October 2014 06:36, by Rommel

        .. Dr. John Garang was infinitely smarter than all your PHD holders combined, including that myopic idiot Riek. We wanted secession but we also carefully studied the implications of presenting ourselves as an explicitly secessionist movement. If we behaved like you [mindless children], we would have been confined to Ethiopia for eight [8] whole years without anything to show for it.

        • 28 October 2014 06:39, by Rommel

          What importance do you think I place upon dynamics that are centuries in the past? Are ’Westerners’ [who are now the most powerful people in the world] suppose to feel dejected by the fact that the Arabs defeated them during the crusades? Are the Chinese suppose to feel lesser in the face of the Mongolians because the Mongols conquered and controlled large swathes of China at one point?

          • 28 October 2014 06:41, by Rommel

            What can the Arabs do to the ’West’ in modern times? What can Mongolia do to China? Dynamics change. Have you forgotten how the Shilluk routinely defeated the Nuer in battle? Of what importance is that today? Dynamics are as fluid as water. Evoking the events of the 18th Century will not help you...

            • 28 October 2014 06:44, by Rommel

              ..Your posts are a scream for relevance. You’re essentially saying, Please, be in awe of me, fear me and accord me the respect that I feel I deserve for events that took place centuries in the past. Respect me because I *was* [past tense] able to prevail against a divided enemy. That doesn’t impress me. If you had defeated the Shilluk [and not the other way round]... I would be impressed.

              • 28 October 2014 06:46, by Rommel

                There’s not a population on the face of the earth that hasn’t experienced subjugation and dark moments at some point in their history. The past cannot be mended, rewritten or reprised... it can only be used as a reference to learn from past mistakes. What ultimately matters is what you can do for yourself in the here and now...

                • 28 October 2014 06:48, by Rommel

                  ..So you can keep on harping on about dynamics centuries in the past much in the same way that Arabs keep on talking about their victories over the Europeans during the crusades. Arabs keep on talking about Al Andalus [Spain] and how they want it back... but what can they do to modern Spain? What can they do to NATO?

                  • 28 October 2014 06:48, by Rommel

                    The words of a bitter man, anchored to yesterday’s glories, desperately holding onto what he used to have and what he has since been deprived of - vicariously living through his ancestors... are but comedy to a man who has power in the here and now. You haven’t accepted the new order, have you? You haven’t accepted the fact that the Dinka are no longer hopelessly divided...

                    • 28 October 2014 06:50, by Rommel

                      .. They now know their potential. The war with Khartoum tested the limits of their endurance. The requirements of survival silenced the voices of division and removed the clouds of doubt. They stand tall and proud of their achievements; they are now the country’s most powerful ethnic group... and this pains you. This is why you feel the need to remind them of a time in which they were underfoot.

  • 28 October 2014 21:56, by Kim Deng

    The Mighty Nuer Warriors have right to make an alliance with anyone including the Devil himself. But the coward Jaanng/Slaves have been in enslavary since 1800s. How Jaang/Slaves were assimilated into Nuer community, how many were sold into slavery my Mighty Nuer Warriors since 1800s?
    http://www.sudanupdate.org/REPORTS/Slavery/slave.htm

    • 29 October 2014 08:00, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      You’re not ’mighty’ and you’re certainly not ’warriors’. You’re just mindless dogs that have traditionally allied with the Arabs like lost puppies. You’ve been used and abused like prostitutes. Khartoum regards us as their enemy, the ones that bravely stand in their way... but they regard you as useful idiots, and so it’s clear that you’re the slaves...

      • 29 October 2014 08:10, by Rommel

        ..Do you actually *think* [if any of you are actually capable thought] that you’re source helps you? It doesn’t help you at all. It shows a population [Dinka] being systematically targeted by your Arab masters precisely because they provided the bulk of the battalions, divisions and martyrs during the war, when most of the army was stationed in Equatoria...

        • 29 October 2014 08:18, by Rommel

          ..But as soon as the army [our men] were deployed to the Bahr el Ghazal border, the Rezeigat and Meseriya [your allies] scurried away like rats, much in the same way that you scurried away like rats after being pursued, hounded and cut down as far as Uror, Akobo, Nyirol, Yuai and Ayod.

          • 29 October 2014 08:32, by Rommel

            Do you know how many men were members of the PDF? The PDP had around 70, 000 men, and you’re complaining about only three [3] to four [4] thousand Ugandan soldiers? Ha, ha, ha. In addition to that, the SAF had around 100, 000 soldiers, backed up by 50, 000 militiamen from Paulino Matip. I won’t even mention the forces of Gadet, Koang and Tanginya.

            • 29 October 2014 08:35, by Rommel

              We also had to deal with the Bari dominated Popular Resistance Movement/Army, the Mundari militia and tribes like the Toposa, Lotuka, Didinga, Boya, Acholi and many others. We also had to fight against the so called ’Fertit’ - a name applied to more than a dozen different tribes in Western Bahr el Ghazal. These tribes include the Kresh, Yulu, Shat, Balanda, Feroghe, Buja, Kara and Banda.

              • 29 October 2014 08:41, by Rommel

                The fact that we were targeted by Khartoum and lost well over a million people resisting them [while you licked their boots] is a badge of honor, and any suffering that we endured as a consequence of our resistance, commitment and sacrifice only fills us with pride. They created artificial famines in our land but fed you as though you were dogs. You’re slaves and you weren’t even forced into it.



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