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Uganda parliament urges to withdraw troops from South Sudan

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May 27, 2015 (KAMPALA) – Ugandan lawmakers on Tuesday called on the government of president Yoweri Museveni to withdraw the country’s troops from the neighbouring South Sudan, saying the cost for their operations was very high and a burden to taxpayers.

Thousands of troops of the Uganda People’s Defence Forces (UPDF) backed with helicopter gunships, tanks and other armoured vehicles, have been deployed in South Sudan since December 2013 to rescue president Salva Kiir from rebel fighters led by former vice president, Riek Machar.

President Museveni on many occasions said the intervention was necessary to maintain the government of president Salva Kiir and stability in the new nation. He also said the forces will not withdraw until he was rest assured that Juba was “secure.”

But Uganda parliament on Tuesday said the cost for keeping UPDF in South Sudan had been a huge burden shouldered by the taxpayers in the country.

In a report presented to the parliament by its specialized committee on defence and internal affairs, the document called on the government to pull out the forces and instead to ask the East African regional bloc, the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD), to provide alternative forces to protect Juba and other vital areas.

“The committee urges government to continue engaging IGAD to ensure a neutral force is deployed,” the report said as reported by Ugandan Daily Monitor.

“This is because the continued presence of the UPDF in South Sudan is proving to be a very high cost to the Ugandan taxpayer,” the lawmakers further said.

Uganda defence ministry also revealed that the country has so far spent over 119 billion Shillings to finance its intervention in South Sudan, saying this was costlier than the country army’s operations in Somalia.

UPDF WILL NOT WITHDRAW

However, defence minister, Crispus Kiyonga, told the parliament, Tuesday, that Ugandan troops will not withdraw from South Sudan despite the cost, adding that Juba government continues to pay UPDF for its other expenses including fuel for the operations against the rebels.

He said the previously talked about alternative force from IGAD had not materialized and therefore UPDF will continue to help defend president Kiir’s government.

“The IGAD force that was supposed to take the place of the UPDF has not yet become a reality. To that extent, therefore, we will remain put in South Sudan,” he declared.

However observers doubt that the parliament, which is controlled by the ruling party, will come out with a resolution directing the government to effect withdrawal of the forces.

A cessation of hostilities agreement (CoHA) signed by the two warring parties on 23 January, 2014, under the mediation of IGAD, and which called for withdrawal of all foreign forces from South Sudan, has not been implemented.

IGAD is yet to announce a date on which the peace negotiations will resume in Addis Ababa under a new expanded mechanism that will include countries and international bodies outside the African continent.

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  • 28 May 2015 09:48, by Son of Ngundeng

    Good news atlas they knew the truth.

  • 28 May 2015 14:06, by Juma El-Saidi.

    Shit! What a hell is that? Let them stay in South Sudan soon than later they will face the consequence, Oh! Let them go so that we see with the government of Salva Kiir if he may not run away to any foreign country. Mr. Man we are going to remind on you whether you like it or not. Museveni has seen that the economy of Juba is now diminishing that’s why they are withdrawing their troops away.

    • 28 May 2015 17:26, by Force 1

      Juma;
      SPLA didn’t left the country ony rats even when Bashir and Riek were fighting against SPLA and when 90% of you Equatorians left the country to the foreign countries.

      Where are Uganda troops located anyway? The few located in Bortown in Jongeli State!? When you capture Mundri; were there Uganda troops over there? Why were your tails behind your legs when SPLA walked to the town? >>>>>

      • 28 May 2015 17:32, by Force 1

        >>>>> Are there Uganda troops in the entire region of Bahr El Gazelle? Are there Uganda troops in Western Equatoria? You don’t need to complain about Uganda troops when you don’t have any ability to do anything against SPLA or the government in South Sudan.

  • 28 May 2015 16:01, by Kim Deng

    What if Uganda army did not involve in "Dinka-Nuer" war? Here is the answer to that question.

    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/south-sudan-peace-talks-going-nowhere-says-pham

    • 28 May 2015 16:34, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      I don’t have any aversion to the truth, and so I’ll readily concede that because Salva Kiir allowed the Nuer [Khartoum’s erstwhile allies] to dominate the army at a whopping 70%, you most likely would have taken Juba. Any tribe would have succeeded under similar dynamics and circumstances. It was Salva’s stupidity [not your ability] that allowed you to get so close.

      • 28 May 2015 16:34, by Rommel

        We didn’t have the Ugandans when we destroyed you in the 90s. You were in alliance with the vast majority of the tribes in the South. You were assisted by Equatorian militias — the Equatorial Defence Force and the Popular Resistance Movement/Army. You had the vast majority of the Shilluk on your side. The Didinga, Toposa and Lotuka were also ranged against the Dinka.

        • 28 May 2015 16:35, by Rommel

          Do you know how many men were members of the PDF? The PDP had around 70, 000 men, and you’re complaining about only three [3] to four [4] thousand Ugandan soldiers? Ha, ha, ha. In addition to that, the SAF had around 100, 000 soldiers, backed up by 50, 000 militiamen from Paulino Matip. I won’t even mention the forces of Gadet, Koang, Tanginya and many more of your traitorous sons.

          • 28 May 2015 16:36, by Rommel

            The Dinka also had to contend with the Mundari militia and the so called ’Fertit’ - a name applied to more than a dozen different tribes in Western Bahr el Ghazal’s Raga county. These tribes included the Kresh, Yulu, Shat, Balanda, Feroghe, Buja, Kara and Banda. When we lost over a million people, why didn’t the Nuer say: ’Well, this is terribly unfair...

            • 28 May 2015 16:37, by Rommel

              ..We shouldn’t use other tribes [from the North & South] and the Sudanese military and its assorted militia network [of more than a quarter of a million fighters] to target one tribe’!? Why didn’t any of you ask that question? Don’t pretend that you are warriors and that the withdrawal of the Ugandans would help you. We humbled you before... without the Ugandans! If Salva leaves, you will lose.

              • 28 May 2015 16:37, by Rommel

                The allies of the Dinka [the Nuba and the people of Blue Nile] had far less troops to offer, little to no heavy weaponry, no steady stream of supplies, no resources and no military industrial base. Your alliance produced a numerically superior force and was furnished with a palette of destructive weaponry. You had a far stronger ally. You should have won... Comfortably, completely!

                • 28 May 2015 16:38, by Rommel

                  We were bombed with an air force many times larger and more powerful than the Ugandan air force for well over a decade. A plethora of deadly munitions [including the cluster bombs that you complain about] were used against us. Artificial famines were created in our lands while Khartoum fed Nuer militias in Unity State, Jonglei and Upper Nile State, like dogs.

                  • 28 May 2015 16:40, by Rommel

                    I have read articles in which the Nuer bemoan the suffering that they’re experiencing and how they’ve never had it worst. I agree. Your alliance with Khartoum shielded you from the efects of war. You really didn’t suffer during the war and so this is kind of a shock to you, isn’t it? The Dinka know sacrifice and suffering. You’re fighting only 2 out of 15 Dinka sections.

  • 28 May 2015 16:59, by Kim Deng

    It is also quite clear that Nuer military domination of the Dinka and other Jurs was grounded in their capacity to field a numerically superior fighting force, and in the organizational features through which mobilization on a large scale was effective. Other aspects of the Nuer advantage were secondary and derivative. Nuer Warriors tactics are relatively simple and straightforward.

    • 28 May 2015 17:29, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Do you even read the citations that you so gratuitously post up? They agree with me. They affirm that the Nuer use to prevail solely because the Dinka were terribly disunited and fielded numerically smaller forces. You weren’t better warriors and you didn’t employ better strategies and tactics. Unity provided you with numbers and numbers were your sole advantage.

      • 28 May 2015 17:29, by Rommel

        See unlike the Nuer, the Dinka could not at all be described as constituting a single tribe; they are in fact many tribes. The Dinka -until very recently- quite strangely never saw the impetus to unify as a tribal unit, whereas Nuer sections routinely combined their efforts against a single Dinka section, one at a time.

        • 28 May 2015 17:30, by Rommel

          Historians are at a consensus that you didn’t prevail over the Dinka [in the 1800s] because of some fanciful notion of military prowess, genius or strategy... You prevailed solely because of your unity as a tribe, against a divided populace that didn’t have a sense of tribal identity that transcended clan identity and clan loyalty.

          • 28 May 2015 17:30, by Rommel

            The unified Nuer had raiding parties that were usually made up of 1500 men, whereas individual Dinka sections rarely mustered a defencive force above three-hundred men [300], and so it’s not all that surprising [and certainly not all that impressive] that a unified group would prevail over a divided force, that wasn’t sufficiently tribal minded and deployed a smaller force as a consequence.

            • 28 May 2015 17:31, by Rommel

              The advantage of the Nuer was based on sheer numbers rather than novel military strategies or fighting techniques. The Dinka were able to repel smaller Nuer raiding parties, were familiar with Nuer tactics, and employed the same multicolumn organization of forces on their own infrequent raids. (Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior Elliott Sober)

              • 28 May 2015 17:32, by Rommel

                Nuer and Dinka oral tradition fail to mention a single battle that was won by a clever new strategy. (Unto Others: The Evolution and Psychology of Unselfish Behavior, Elliott Sober)

                • 28 May 2015 17:33, by Rommel

                  ..The good old days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over and are never to return. We [Dinka] lost over a million people, but the war with Khartoum was the single greatest thing that has ever happened to us. Our identity has been forged in a common struggle against your Arab masters. We were like fragments of a broken sword, melded together and reconstituted by fire.

                  • 28 May 2015 17:33, by Rommel

                    Why don’t you carry out proper accreditation of a book that you insist on quoting ad verbatim? Let everyone know that you’re haphazardly citing a book. I think the reason you feel the need to incessantly quote that book is the realization that the good old days of raiding the divided Dinka with impunity are over... And are NEVER to return.

  • 28 May 2015 18:18, by Kim Deng

    Yes, the separatists made an alliance with Khartoum gov’t after they were kicked out from Bilpan in 1983. Is that what you been calling "slavery"? Here is what I call slavery, which your coward Jaang/Slaves have been facing since 1800s.

    http://csi-usa.org/slave_liberation.html

    • 28 May 2015 18:30, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Your special *relationship* with Khartoum was not an alliance. An alliance implies the existence of a strategic relationship between two or more relatively equal forces. You took orders from Khartoum like the dogs that you are. If my people faced raids, abductions, artificial famines and bombardment as a consequence of fighting Khartoum... that makes me all the more proud...

      • 28 May 2015 18:30, by Rommel

        I don’t understand how stupidity can have such a collective dimension. It’s almost cultural with you people. Are lobotomies a rite of passage in Nuer culture? I have yet to meet a single intelligent Nuer. You idiots keep on repeating the same nonsense over and over again no matter how many times you are corrected.

        • 28 May 2015 18:31, by Rommel

          I am proud of what my people were able to achieve during the war. I am proud of the fact that they fought so well for so long while others licked Khartoum’s boots. We fought close to a quarter of a million combatants and we still held our ground. We lost a million people and we still persevered. There is nothing that you can say that will diminish the immense pride I feel for my people.

          • 28 May 2015 18:31, by Rommel

            The Jaang are the ones that bled for this country while you served Khartoum like dishonorable cowards. The Jaang are the ones that provided the most battalions, divisions and martyrs. The Jaang are the ones that had the power to permit your return in 2006. The Jaang are the ones that Khartoum respects. The Nuer are the idiots that they used and discarded like prostitutes.

  • 28 May 2015 20:54, by Kim Deng

    When the CPA was signed in 2005, the Khartoum troops were still dancing in Torit let alone Malakal, Wau and Juba. Had it not been the unification of the two (Unionists and Separatists), there could not been what you call a country.

    • 28 May 2015 22:14, by Rommel

      Kim Deng:

      Was this your achievement? We were fighting on two fronts and we still controlled the vast majority of the South. We controlled some towns like Gogrial, Rumbek, Tonj, Aweil Achwa, Magwi, Yei, Kapoeta, Kurmuk, Kor, Yabu, Zanziber and many others. Khartoum had to airlift supplies into Juba because we controlled all the roads.

      • 28 May 2015 22:16, by Rommel

        You were permitted to return in 2006, so don’t pretend that you played any part in what was achieved. You were not ’separatists’... you were oilfield guard-dogs and nothing more.

        • 28 May 2015 22:17, by Rommel

          You want to trivialize and denigrate the sacrifices made during the war because you weren’t part of it. You didn’t fight on multiple fronts. You weren’t targeted by Khartoum. You didn’t starve to death in apocalyptic artificial famines. You didn’t lose a million people. You didn’t provide the bulk of the battalions, divisions and martyrs. You worked for Khartoum, as slaves.



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