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South Sudanese parties fail to agree on the number of states

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December 4, 2019 (JUBA) – The parties signatory to the revitalized peace agreement have failed to agree on the numbers of states South Sudan should have, mediators said.

South Africa’s special envoy to South Sudan, David Mabuza (SABC)

Speaking to reporters on Wednesday after a two-day meeting of the parties in Juba, South Africa’s special envoy to South Sudan, David Mabuza said the parties are considering two options on the number of states.

“We are going to finalize the issue of the states and boundaries in the next 10 days,” he said.

The meeting of the parties was attended by Mabuza and the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD) special envoy to South Sudan, Ambassador Ismail Wais.

Lam Akol, a member of South Sudan Opposition Alliance (SSOA) said they needed a win-win situation after the parties failed reach a compromise on number of states.

“We are likely to see between 10 and 32 states after what transpired during the meeting of the parties,” he remarked.

On his part, South Sudan’s cabinet affairs minister, Martin Elia Lomoru urged the parties to the peace accord to ensure they agree on the number of states and boundaries.

Early last month, President Salva Kiir and the country’s opposition leader Riek Machar agreed to delay key benchmarks in the peace agreement by 100 days.

The delay in forming a national unity government on November 12 came after Machar’s group raised concerns that the country’s security arrangements are still incomplete.

South Sudan descended into civil war in mid-December 2013 when President Kiir accused his former deputy Machar of plotting a coup, allegations the latter dismissed.

In September last year, the country’s rival factions signed a revitalized peace deal to end the civil war that killed tens of thousands of people and displaced millions.

(ST)

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  • 5 December 2019 07:35, by South South

    32 states will win because majority of people in South Sudan want that. 10 states is a historty and we must forget about it. What is important here is not number of states, what is important is to have very good understanding of states boundaries, 32 states is win-win Lam Akol. Peace in our country.

    • 5 December 2019 07:42, by Malakal county Simon

      10 States is the win-win situation and should be accept by both parties.... South South/Bone-head, Majority want 32?? when was they been consulted?? Why are they fighting in greater Lake region??

      • 5 December 2019 07:48, by South South

        Malakal County Simon,

        You are very stupid Nuer. Did Bashir consulted Nuers when he created 10 states? No, then why making stupid arguement with us Nuer. Bashir gave Nuers free Nyantits, then created his bogus 10 states. We are giving your uncles free Nyantits in Juba, so everything will be ok, 32 states is accepted by majority.

        • 5 December 2019 09:39, by jubaone

          I strongly advocate for 32 states for now, but want 64 states for each ethnic group. Everybody must return to their ancestral lands as of 01.01.1956. PERIOD. Jienges will have no more business idling in Nimule cuz the Madis and Acholis are returning to their ancestral lands. The kiirminal can take away the remains of his deceased wife from Madiland. SS must breakup soon or later.

          • 5 December 2019 09:46, by jubaone

            During kokora, we paid off all non-Equatorians to get back to their regions. This hasn´t changed our position till now. Yes, non-Equatorians can visit us, but not be allowed to settle anywhere unless given permit by local authorities. Their children will not be allowed to register freely in our Equatoria schools or taught by Equatorian teachers. Each state has its own budget.

            • 5 December 2019 09:49, by jubaone

              We will make sure that all PoCs in Juba are closed and all IDPs repatriated to their regions. We cant have everybody hovering in Juba or Equatoria, while their states turn into feeding centers or grazing fields for cows. NO. Every SS must work in his/her place. This is federalism and bringing towns to the villages and not the other way round. That is why I want 32+ states.

              • 5 December 2019 10:03, by The Rhino

                South South,

                Your foolish drunkard Kiir woke up one morning full of Whiskey and created those 32 Dinka states without even consulting the parliament.His move was illegal and a crime.Your worthless states was meant to instigate confusions and conflicts among communities in South Sudan.Bloated number of states is neither functional nor fundable,they’re too expensive,so forget about that!Without a..

                • 5 December 2019 10:15, by The Rhino

                  South South,

                  ..clear number of states,you can’t form let alone run a government without a defined number of states.You Dinka incompetent savages always have a reverse logic of doing things.You lack rational thinking.That’s why you often end up in chaos, kleptocracy,grand thefts and anarchy.You fear transparency and intellectual competition,worthless!

                  • 5 December 2019 10:26, by jubaone

                    Rhino,
                    I see your point. We Equatorians must stop convincing anybody about the worthiness of SS as a country, it is a failed, hopeless country. We Equatorians must think of what we can do for ourselves. That is why since 2016, I have insisted on EQUATEXIT as the best solution. Even if we had 10 states now, it will be upon us Equatorians alone to fix this shit. We are NOT their babysitters.

                  • 5 December 2019 10:33, by jubaone

                    Rhino,
                    You may take a donkey to a water point, but cant force it to drink. We tried to civilize the jienges to learn to live with others, they just cant, even among themselves alone. LEAVE THEM to wallow in their own filth. They are simply holding us back. Equatoria would be like Rwanda now, if it were not for these lazy and foolish majority. Yes, Equatoria can. We dont need the rest, they us.

                  • 5 December 2019 10:33, by The Rhino

                    Jubaone,

                    Kiir created those bogus states so that there is always tensions and killings among communities in South Sudan,realities are on the ground.The damned bloodsucker wants to remain in power as long as South Sudanese are busy killing themselves.JCE used Kiir to create a state of anarchy favorable for them to loot resources,grab lands,murder etc. with impunity.Kiir’s gov’t is against peace!

                    • 5 December 2019 10:47, by The Rhino

                      Jubaone,

                      Excellent point.We want our own State of Equatoria!Its the best option for us Equatorians.We will work hard towards that.Dealing with Dinka savages is only a waste of time.For how long should this whole mess and shit continue in our lands?Damn it its time to think different and only for ourselves.Naive Equatorians who stand in our way will also get crucified.#State of Equatoria# NOW!

              • 5 December 2019 14:43, by Garang Akeen Tong

                Jubone

                Your call for equatoriaexite will never happen unless you bring those who were dead in equatoria land to life , we are ready to leave your land but we need souls of our brothers, otherwise you will be ask to evacate to where you come from.

                • 5 December 2019 15:18, by jubaone

                  Garang Akeen Tong
                  You worthless jienge kaffir. In 2007, many jienge freebooters said Equatorians must give them buckets of blood, if Equatorians wanted back their grabbed lands. In 2013-4, all jienges were driven off and fled Yei
                  Today, it is a clean and liberated town except jienge soldiers. We have the guns and soon or later, Juba will burn.You have nowhere to go, drifter.

                • 5 December 2019 15:29, by jubaone

                  Garang Akeen
                  Be thankful, that we Equatorians are still merciful to you jienges. We clothed, fed and accommodated you homeless vagrants. Watch out kaffir. Only buried people have souls. Most of your people were eaten up by hyenas and vultures, so what souls? This is cheap jienge bullshit to stick and idle here in Equatoria. You are worthless without us, jienge kaffir.

                  • 5 December 2019 15:57, by The Rhino

                    Garang Akeen Tong,

                    By the way,Akeen=Akin means karaa in Bari language.Shit,so if you insist on squatting in Equatoria you will pay a dear price, that’s it.We don’t give a damn shit about your fucking souls killed in Equatoria.Why are you in Equatoria in the first place?If you want to stay alive go back to Bahr El Gazal and stay there.We don’t play games this time.Dinka have no fucking business...

                    • 5 December 2019 16:01, by The Rhino

                      Garang Akin karaa,

                      ..roaming around in Equatoria.You remain, you die, full stop!

                      • 6 December 2019 10:28, by Garang Akeen Tong

                        The rhino
                        jubone

                        To insult someone mean you are lost everything to him or her.
                        We have two options just.
                        1. Accept defeat and come back
                        home .
                        2.or stay in Bush forever
                        to insult me is not solution. Just cool down and fight me in Internet. Am here and Am going nowhere. Borns of our brothers are buried here. We liberated you from Arab and turn against us.

                  • 6 December 2019 10:37, by Garang Akeen Tong

                    Jubone

                    You have guns, where have you kept those guns during liberation? Keep talking till you will cry .

        • 5 December 2019 11:12, by Malakal county Simon

          South South/Bone-head

          Yes Albashir did consulted each and every one of us including your God-father Salva Kiir and that’s why we went a head and got our independent operating under smart 10 States which has a clear boundaries and does not cause war between our communities.... Why are you supporting a useless idea that’s caused killings amongs our Communities??

          • 5 December 2019 11:19, by Malakal county Simon

            cont...

            I may be a stupid as you called me but I’m but way ahead of when it’s come to reasons to why are doing this and that because you’re just a foolish bone-head!! Ati did Albasher consulted you Nuer?? you’re a real idiot embarrassing other Dinkas!!

      • 5 December 2019 14:33, by Pakuai

        Malakal county Simon,
        In your dreamiest dream chap. The government of South Sudan will move Akoba from you Nuer losers and give the owners, our Anyuak people. Our Nuers ke nyantoc, game is over. Langecuk will be given to the owners, the Burun people. Our Nuers ke nyantoc, you don’t belong in Malakal and so do the Shilluks (chollos), Malakal belongs Apagang Dinkka, take it or leave it>>>>

    • 5 December 2019 09:35, by Gorjang Gany

      South Sudan.

      There is no room for 32 states because many South Sudanese neglect those useless states that had no budget, we only supported 10 states.

      Every body know your name why are you calling yourself South Sudan? And your real name is called Nhiar Kuen Amuok shame on you useless Dinka.

      • 5 December 2019 09:43, by Gorjang Gany

        Continue

        You had been operated in your 32 states for almost 5 years and you are enjoying nothing, your people from greater Bar el Gazal are dying of starvation and inter- communal violent.

        What are you enjoying as Dinka who have created 32 states?

        • 5 December 2019 09:52, by Gorjang Gany

          Continue

          It is written in the Bible that, if you are blaming the pool she/he blaming you too.

          It had become true that, Dinka people have a big heart in the world. As we see now they are the one looting the properties of the nation and still they are begging others people to give them somethings to eat.

          • 5 December 2019 14:56, by Garang Akeen Tong

            Gorjang

            We are satisfied with our states , if you aren’t satisfied with it, you should fuck your things and go back to your old state. And stop your nonsense.

        • 5 December 2019 09:53, by jubaone

          Gornyang,
          That is exactly the reason why we should want 32+ states. Jienges can do anything in their areas, it doesnt bother us in Equatoria. It becomes our problem, when these drifters, freebooters and idlers come to rob, rape, kill and behave like savages in Equatoria. We dont want that. We Equatorians are civilized, hard working that is why all foreigners and investors are in Equatoria.

    • 5 December 2019 11:14, by Khent

      What if we scrapped States altogether and just opted for 3 Regional Governments with a greater degree of Regional Autonomy? It would be significantly more sustainable and it would engender healthy competition between the Regions. I think the role (s) and responsibilities of County governments should be expanded and that Land Title should be left at this level.

      • 5 December 2019 14:42, by Pakuai

        3 Regional areas where the Nuers, so-called Twic East would play game with us again?, Good luck with that, that cannot happen again. Reasons, we want our Nuers ke nyantoc, Twic East and their backers to be shown their ’right place, surrender to the South Sudanese people, our they would be bombed to nothing like our enemies and their backers’>>>

        • 5 December 2019 15:07, by Khent

          Pakuai

          I’m going to *try* to engage with you on a normal human level and so I’ll direct questions your way. Who are the "South Sudanese people"? You do realise that Equatoria, the Nuer, Shilluk and the Fertit constitute the majority of the "South Sudanese people"? What "games" are you on about?

      • 5 December 2019 16:28, by The Rhino

        Khent,

        Yes Khent the librarian,you would be the only Dinka scholar who would enjoy owning a certified library in Equatoria under limited permit of course,when Equatoria becomes an Independent State,why?..b’cos you are the only librarian who never cease to give our honorable readers good suggestions.Unfortunately rest of your Dinka tribesmen are pure morons and savages.Stay cool!

    • 5 December 2019 13:12, by Midit Mitot

      Dear all,

      Use this formula, 32+10= 42 divide 2 = 21 states,

      this is the real formula that will work.

      • 5 December 2019 14:47, by Pakuai

        Midit Mitot
        If that you losers are chasing, then then very careful:
        Mr. Midit Mitot, do you these numbers?
        . (i)
        . (ii)
        . (iii)
        . (iv)
        . (v)---

        • 5 December 2019 15:10, by Pakuai

          these are ’Roman numbers’, but these [0] (was brought in by the Indians); but 1, 2, 3, 4 6,7,8 were brought into the mathematics, by us, the Dinkas/Muonujiengs of the Sudan and Coptic people. These numbers have nothing to do with Arabs or European. 9 (6), is the same with numbers l just ’posted above’. In the today modern world, the criminals in Europe have been playing ’magic and superstitious’>>

          • 5 December 2019 15:35, by Pakuai

            and even you losers think, you can play game with us, that is not going to happen under the sun, watch these numbers fools, "0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10". Your Riek Machar often use those numbers above, like 3, 3, 7, 10, 12, 16, 24, 39, and so on. But one (1), two (2), three (3), four (4), five (5), six (6) seven (7), Eight (8), Nine (9) and ten (10)>>>

            • 5 December 2019 18:04, by Pakuai

              There is *no win-win with our cloned so-called arabs of North Sudan, their gulf their gulf Arab states’, their backers from the US, evil juus (so-called israel), their UN, their sleazy NGOs; in fact, we are going to these vermin to nothing (zero) and get away with, reasons, pure HATRED and RACISM>>>

            • 5 December 2019 18:17, by Pakuai

              There is *no win-win with our cloned so-called arabs of North Sudan, their gulf their gulf Arab states’, their backers from the US, evil juus (so-called israel), their UN, their sleazy NGOs; in fact, we are going to these vermin to nothing (zero) and get away with, reasons, pure HATRED and RACISM>>>

          • 6 December 2019 09:42, by Midit Mitot

            Pakaui,

            You are completely mad person, try to stick on one point whenever you like to commend on.

            You use to bring nonsense like these number 1,2,3,4,5, what brought these and what brought European and India in to this debate environment ?

    • 5 December 2019 15:05, by Garang Akeen Tong

      South south

      Tell those forks who talks rubush, win win here we go. No more debate.

      • 5 December 2019 16:19, by South South

        Garang Akeen Tong,

        Don’t waste your good time with these losers of jubaone or The Rhino. 32 states are going be there to be seen. Anyone who wants to change them by force needs to deal with our AK-47 first. This is very clear. We have majority and we have AK-47 waiting to see who will be misbehave, then we will deal with them accordingly. My writing can be read like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

        • 5 December 2019 16:46, by The Rhino

          South South,

          I see today every stinky idiot wants to be a mathematician,shit!You Abyei vagrant can’t even count to ten in your own language let alone till 32,what do you know about numbers?There’s no difference between you and that derailed Bangi troll from Bor Pakuai.As for AK-47,Bantu Museveni’s mercenaries are keeping you save alive & breathing in Equatoria,this will end up anytime soon.The...

          • 5 December 2019 16:48, by The Rhino

            South South,

            ..clock is ticking, tick tock, tick tock, tick....!!!all MTNs OUT!

            • 5 December 2019 17:03, by South South

              The Rhino,

              Shit, what clock is ticking? You need to move to Juba today by force and see what AK-47 will do to wicked people like you and your uncles. We don’t too much, we do action job. I am laughing.

              • 5 December 2019 18:37, by The Rhino

                South South,

                Masiriya arabs in Abyei are teaching you coward jienges very dear lessons.If you had that courage or bravery, why don’t you go ahead and use that AK-47 to liberate your starving relatives in jiengeland ha?You skunk!You only bark like a street dog,shit!Shut up!

          • 8 December 2019 01:20, by Anthony

            the ugly mundari cowfucker🐄
            https://www.flickr.com/photos/ligorio/39848126150
            If the Dinka can’t count to ten in their language as you say(a lie since you clearly dont know how to speak dinka) then your ugly tribe of the mundari most definitely cannot count to ten either. Do you not realixe that nilotic languages are related to eachother?

            You’re clearly too stupid to understand linguistics.

            • 8 December 2019 01:24, by Anthony

              The gay mundari cow fucker🐄

              One of the gunniest things to see in the world is someone as black as charcoal acting just like a nazi and pretending as if their cow blowing tribe were on the same level as the ancient romans or egyptians.😂

              Juet fuck off and shower your head din cow urine you ugly mundari slave Nigger.🖕

              https://www.instagram.com/p/B00VirlnhZu/?igshid=1rysr9x0swflx

        • 5 December 2019 18:56, by jubaone

          South South
          Foolish majority. Jienges dont manufacture AK-47, they buy them with state resources, or are handed to them by UPDF. Oh yes, this time around, we battle it out man-to-man and the winner takes it all. Should you lose, we shall defecate into the mouths of your "carcases". Like what Rhino wrote, jienge cowards have all fled to Equatoria, Kenya or Uganda leaving their shithole states empty

          • 5 December 2019 22:44, by Eastern

            jubaone,

            It’s good that the unwanted goods are killing them selves, with the survivers being carted to Juba by the UN, the jenge love to hate! Let’s see how that’s is gonna be sustained!

  • 6 December 2019 09:29, by Ayuiu Makuac Lam

    Without agreement on the number of state, there is no peace in south Sudan.



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